I really wish there wasn't so much BMW involvement in all of this. BMW has lots its way in terms of creating fun to drive performance cars. Now seeing it entering the M test center makes me think the beating heart will be a BMW sourced engine.
I'm glad they took in the length of the FT1. It makes for less "presence" but hopefully helps it get close to the 3000 pound mark which would be incredible.
That reasoning makes a lot of sense. And I hope you're right! For me, the Supra just wouldn't quite be a Supra if it's got another company's engine under the hood.
And I like how all these reports are making it seem like the Z5 will be more a lifestyle car while the Supra will be the true...
I could definitely see both your pricing/segment and drivetrain predictions being close if not spot on. Using an electric motor for filling the dead spot before a turbo spools up would be great, taking a page straight out of the Mclaren P1 blueprint. I also hope they keep the electric motors off...
About time we got some actual production news! This news makes this years concept update reveal even more exciting then.
Surprised both companies are outsourcing the build though. They each have huge manufacturing abilities and should have the capacity to absorb that amount of units.
So I read earlier this week about Toyota finally axing the Scion brand and rebadging the FR-S as a Toyota, giving Toyota its first sports car in a long time. Got me thinking if this has some possible negative effect on the Supra MKV coming to market? Before this news, the new Supra woulda been...
I know it's not apples to apples comparison but the FT-1 blows the Z5 away, no matter what is hiding under the camo. One has flowing shapes everywhere and the other (Z5) is just a wedge. I find German styling so bland compared to Japanese design.
But at what cost. It's still very expensive to drop major weight in cars since the only way to do it is using a lot of carbon fiber construction, which is still expensive to do for most manufacturers.
It is sad everything is going hybrid. I like the Porsche 911 size rumor which I believe was mentioned way back. Not happy about the powertrain and agree I really hope there is at least a non hybrid option. I don't understand why a halo sports car needs to be fuel efficient.
At this point who knows if we will ever see it. I honestly dont know why some car companies choose this long drawn out lead time. The FT-1 has been old news for a while and now long forgotten by most people. Why not build on the rave reception it received and go straight into an official...
Might look more modern (that's subjective) than new R8 but doesn't sound like it. Turbo 6 sound coming out of it doesn't come close to the NA V10 sound coming from the R8.
I like the throwback vertical grilles but it only looks right on classic BMWs and not on something so modern. Bummer then that BMW won't be showing whatever their version of the supra is.
It seems whenever news is slow some random site will rekindle the rumor mill with some whispers/guesses/outright lies. One of the details I hope is true is that its about the size of a 911 but I won't hold my breath...
Wtf they already have patent sketches?? Where are we with the Supra?? Well let me say that if it looks like the sketch it will be pretty awesome and definitely have me considering it against the next Supra (if it ever comes).
Let me preface my post by saying I don't like the thought of a BMW engine in a Supra at all, even if it's the motor from the new M3/M4. But lets just say that it happens, the mid-range acceleration (i.e. 30-90mph) in those cars is ridiculously fast. Electronically limited to 155 mph though.
But they could just ship the M engines over to a US plant, or maybe assemble them right here for the Supra. Anyways, such a weird statement to even type and even weirder to think about.