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There won't be a grmn edition. This, now officially a turd, will be such a flop, it will be killed before then.

Omg these specs and price point are laughably bad. I was really hoping this wouldn't be the case. I held out, wishing the leaks/rumors werent true. But apparently Toyota indeed went full retard. This Zupra is dead on arrival.

Lol, no it hasn't. Y'all are straight delusional. It's supposed ring times are not impressive in the slightest. This Zupras competition is the 370z... Which costs half the price.

True. The reclad Z4s will likely be treated with open scorn/derision, as apposed to ambivalence. I wonder if they will even be allowed in the Vegas or Texas meets? I hope not.

Well the good thing is there won't be any generation elitism with the mk5 like the mk3 vs mk4 debate/elitism back in the day. The mk5 is just a cutrate beemer, so none of the mk4 owners will care. Hell, based on the early preview reviews from Spain, the mk3 owners won't care about the aenemic...

With a solid meh, based on the price/performance of the aenemic regular model. Toyota is tarded and will likely want 6 digits for the performance version, just to get the same specs as a base mustang. ETA... This forums quote function blows. Tried to quote performance sounds post

Likely laugh at the folks that paid 90k for a 400 hp special edition Supra. Then watch as their mk4s appreciate even faster in value. That's my guess.

Aenemic power, only auto, built in a shit German factory... But we get a convertible instead of a targa. Godammit Toyota. Literally every thing that it takes to make a good Supra reboot, they chose to do the opposite. We now have a solara with BMW reliability.

Here's something that should be able to be talked to, because it doesn't give away anything. The supposed special versions. Is the plan for them to be built in a Toyota plant, using Toyota sourced accessories/parts? Maybe not exclusively Toyota. But at least using TPS processies, that way we...

And your entire post is invalidated by the fact we have seen the parts list from the realoem leak. Bog standard, parts bin BMW parts.

It won't have high volume, but the fact that their premier car, that everyone has been pining for is a pos... That will get huge play in the media. Much more damaging that your best of the best car, will leave you stranded.

Magna is a trash facility. Look up what has come out of there... An engine is only one part of the reliability equation. The N55 in my BMW, on it's own, is stout. All the electronics, engine accessories, cooling system, suspension, etc etc ... Not so much. Yeah, it's great that the engine...

95% BMW sourced parts, built with BMW manufacturing processes, on a BMW (magna aka shit tier) line. Yeah, nevermind. This car will magically have Toyota reliability just because they had a hand in choosing which BMW parts bin parts should be used and slapped a Toyota logo on.

Heres my concern. If any of these alternate versions are "down the road," they ultimately hinge on the success of the normal model. As is, the normal model is DoA. 370z performance, for a Corvette price, with BMW reliability is a complete non-starter. Well never see the performance versions...

To break the internet, there would have to be a radical shift in performance/price point. Right now, it's laughably bad. 50-60k for 370z performance and BMW reliability, only available in auto is DOA. Simply to be competitive, hp needs a bump to high 400 low 500s. That just gets you on equal...

This car is being built with BMW parts, using BMW manufacturing processes, at a BMW plant. No, you are not getting any shred of Toyota reliability. This car is going to DESTROY Toyotas reliability reputation.

It's not speculation anymore. Dozens of organizations were invited to drive a 90-95% production representative car and report on it. Read the OP. It has been confirmed by dozens of people, not collecting a paycheck from Toyota, that the new "Supra" is a turd.

Yep. You are 100% correct. They are absolutely under delivering.

No, it's a dozen reviews. All of them tepid to lukewarm. Toyota themselves are already pushing the line, "don't look at the specs." Straight from the horses mouth. Toyota should be fucking BRAGGING about the specs and performance. Instead they are saying please ignore them. Please swap a 2jz...

Benchmarked during early design != Actual performance. I suggest you go read any of the dozen articles in the OP. Actual performance is pathetic for a 50k car.