Featured Spied: Toyota benchmarking Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) for new Supra?

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    #1 Jun 25, 2016
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    Will the new Toyota Supra be a match for the 911 GT3 RS (997)? Toyota has been spied testing the legendary 911 track focused car at the Nurburgring, possibly to use as a benchmark for the upcoming Supra MKV.

    Toyota benchmarking previous Porsche 911 GT3 for new Supra?

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    OH MY.

    This is the kind of report I could only dream of.

    All this eco-hybrid garbage nonsense had me thinking this was going to end up being an overpriced sissycar.

    That is only the 997.1 RS, not the 3.8 or 4.0, and is a decade's old car, but hopefully this means there is a quality benchmark for the Supra. Honestly I'd still like more power but if this car offered the performance and feel of a GT3 RS, even a 10 year old one, for a reasonable price, it's a guaranteed winner.
     
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    Also for those of you who don't know, DAU0680 is a Toyota factory plate, as well as some others like 0679, 0684, etc.

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    Holy.... I had the same reaction! :spaz:

    If the new Supra can match the 997 in most performance metrics as well as its feel, it will be an absolute hit. The 997's steering feel and its Mezger engine are already the stuff of legends, and some say even better than the new 991 GT3.

    With the Lexus LC development already done, the MKV Supra is logically the only car Toyota could be testing a GT3 RS for. :bow:
     
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    #5 Jun 30, 2016
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    That's reaching! :) Different platform, different animal. Rear engine, rear wheel drive (no elect motor for front wheels), short wheel base. I think they just want to have a better understanding of what a true driver's performance "street car" feels like.

    Even the new $200K Porsches will not be using the Mezger engines with Nikasil cylinders. Not only too expensive, but also take too long to warm up engine for everyday street use (99% of market).
     
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    That's a pretty high bench mark.. Lol
     
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    That benchmark is spot on. Hopefully they can get that steering feel of the Porsches. I'm mega excited about this Supra MkV - it is going to be a long wait...
     
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    Older article, but it says it will be about the size of a 911.

    http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/2018-toyota-supra-performance-news-specs/
     
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    Virtually identical to the 911.

    Let's hope they can keep it at or under the 911's curb weight of ~3,100 lbs as well.

    It would be fun to get a german-built Toyota take on the 911.
     
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    i recall Motortrend saying they were aiming for GT6's weight of 2,910 lbs.
     
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    I hope they hit that mark not only because it'd mean a nice light car but also that it won't have a hybrid powerplant (which would make it heavier).
     
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    MT says it will be a hybrid.

     
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    Most recent report/guess was that Toyota was aiming for "under 1,400kg" (3,086 lbs).

    Something in the 2,900-3,000lb range would be fantastic.

    Squeezing a hybrid system into that figure would be pretty impressive but it seems doubtful. Could always be a mild hybrid setup with one motor and small batteries.
     
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