The Development Story of the MKV Supra

[PerformanceSound]

Great video! Hopefully now some people will let go of the past (2JZ / MKIV comparisons) and move forward.

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[dgh]

Great video, very professionally done.

 

[MW7]

Fantastic video. Gives a really balanced perspective and explains a lot, especially the clarity in bringing out the point that components sharing does not mean badge engineering when all the tuning are done separately. Thanks for putting the video together!

 

[RyanGT3RS]

Awesome video. I am highly against this co-development modeling this car as a Supra, but I can certainly appreciate the effort it took to produce this video. There is a lot of arguments to cover, a lot of detail to straighten-out as well as a lot of unanswered questions to research and uncover. I have learned a lot watching this. But this car is cursed.

Toyota would of had a much greater success on this co-development, more than the 86, if they had never modeled this car as a 'Supra'.

(Below is a 2018 chart)

A Kia, the same amount of money as a Range Rover in maintenances over a 10 year span is hard to believe.

 

[Bryster]

A Kia, the same amount of money as a Range Rover in maintenances over a 10 year span is hard to believe.

Dent the grille and find out

 

[HKz]

Dent the grille and find out

yea makes sense because Kia bumpers aren't plastic like everyone else..




- bryster have you ever driven a car...? it was sarcasm...

 

[Guff]

Great work Guff! Thank you so much for taking us on that journey. Thank you for making supramkv.com what it’s like. Proud to be a part of it.

@JT and @Supra93 are the real heroes here, they keep things going behind the scenes and we should all be very thankful for them! I'm just the crazy kid who talks too much!

 

[Viselord]

Great video @Guff! Your videos never fail to impress. I'm enjoying checking the video every now and then, watching the numbers explode and getting excited lol.

 

[AsupramkvC]

Alright, so I finally made that video. I had to cut a tonnn of stuff out to keep it from being a feature-length film, but this hits all the bases of the development timeline and touches on the decisions made by the Toyota and BMW teams during the development process of the Supra and Z4.

Personally, I don‘t think Toyota would do badge engineering. They would just ruin their reputation as being a reliable car manufacturer if the badge engineered car turns out not to be so good in a few years time; and considering that the Supra is their halo car, and that they’ve spent a lot on research and development, a lot of time as well, just for a sports car where its main is not for profit but to satisfy enthusiasts who have been craving for a driver’s car. Toyota partnered with BMW for one major reason: inline-6 engine. Toyota made the right decision to partner with one of the few manufacturers left still poducing tried & tested inline-6 engines these days. Of course Toyota did it for the enthusiasts; but they, for sure, applied their own philosophy and strategies into this car as well. They puzzled out what are the right pieces to use for the car. Yes, they use majority of BMW parts and stuff into this car; but that’s not right to say right away that it’s a BMW. Toyota corrected the errors of BMW. Toyota has the right to select(and reject) which BMW parts to use for their Supra. They made a BMW car as reliable as a Toyota. In fact, BMW should be thankful because the Z4 could most likely be the most reliable Z4 to date, thanks to Toyota. This project is totally sifferent as compared to when Toyota and Subaru developed the 86 and BRZ. This one is more special. Besides, Toyota has been successful when it comes to developing cars with other manufacturers. Look at the Lexus LFA, Toyota 86, Toyota 2000GT. All of these are made legendary because of Toyota. We could say that Toyota has the ability to maximize on the strengths of their partners while also applying their own secret recipe for the collaboration to work and stand out. Toyota has always done a very good job so far when it comes to partnership with different companies. I can’t wait to drive the Supra, and I’m excited to know what Toyota’s future lies ahead. At this point in time, when the vast majority of automakers are working on developing electric cars or electrifying their lineups one way or the other, I feel thankful that Toyota has put a lot of work, effort, and dedication into what Tetsuya Tada said is most likely to be Toyota’s last present to petrol heads. Akio Toyoda also said that this version of Supra is better than ever. I won’t take what they said for granted. I want to drive and feel it myself. For sure Toyota always has a better way. They still know how to properly build reliable and exciting sports cars.

 

[Kaizen]

Do you guys think there will be an in-depth article for the Toyota-BMW collab. for these cars like there was for the BRZ/GT86? I loved reading the engineering dynamics and problems between the two companies that occurred along the way. I thoroughly enjoyed this piece linked below:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5274

 

[mas921]

Fantastic video! Will reference it when debunking morons all over the internet

 

[A70TTR]

Guff, I wanted to ask this: Where can I read up more on claim that Toyota had to test the durability of the BMW motor by sending it back to Japan and having parts that didn't meet Toyota standards revised?

This was something I wanted an answer to since Toyota wanted to keep their reputation for reliability. I'm glad someone like you found an answer for it.

I'm just curious to see how that was done!

You can't read up on it really aside from it mentioned in a few interviews, and from people like me that witnessed it. Once the car is out, I think that info will all be available in far more detail however.

 

[Bryster]

Just gonna put this here

 

[solidsamir]

i've watched this video like 4 times lol

 

[Nurburgring]

Thanks for the video. Very well done and on point for the most heated aspect of the new Supra.

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