It’s just too small for me, personal preference. It just doesn’t have the same feel of a Supra when looking at pictures.
MKIVs are so balanced man, they just need a little love to get to the right place. I wish more people took advantage of that. It's a side of the car that is so different from the "highway monster" ethos that it generally carries, and the one that Tsuzuki-San and the whole Supra team were focused on creating coming from the heavy MK3. There's nothing wrong with highway/drag Supras of course; my last car was mainly a roll-race type build and I loved it. But I think having had the privilege to drive a number of canyon and track focused Supras, I've realized that the breadth of the Supra platform is far greater than many people realize. It also helps link the common thread between Toyota sports cars and why I've come to love almost all of their offerings, from the FWD Celica GTS' and 86s both old and new. Toyota focuses on the driver and their experience, rather than playing to spec/lap time battles with other companies. And as cheesy as it sounds, I genuinely believe that stems from Toyota's application of their original guiding principles.
Wholeheartedly agree and it's what gives me faith that the A90 will be the type of car that I will really enjoy.MKIVs are so balanced man, they just need a little love to get to the right place. I wish more people took advantage of that. It's a side of the car that is so different from the "highway monster" ethos that it generally carries, and the one that Tsuzuki-San and the whole Supra team were focused on creating coming from the heavy MK3. There's nothing wrong with highway/drag Supras of course; my last car was mainly a roll-race type build and I loved it. But I think having had the privilege to drive a number of canyon and track focused Supras, I've realized that the breadth of the Supra platform is far greater than many people realize. It also helps link the common thread between Toyota sports cars and why I've come to love almost all of their offerings, from the FWD Celica GTS' and 86s both old and new. Toyota focuses on the driver and their experience, rather than playing to spec/lap time battles with other companies. And as cheesy as it sounds, I genuinely believe that stems from Toyota's application of their original guiding principles.
Anyways, off the soapbox. Sorry guys, I'm a bit of a Toyota freak.
Supra was so very underappreciated for it's handling. It had so much grip, despite its weight. Considering 90s tire tech as well
I agree. The 2.0-litre I4 should compete with the likes of Honda Civic Type R, Subaru WRX STi, Volkswagen Golf GTI, etc. whilst the 3.0-litre I6 should lot in the middle of the affordable Japanese performance cars and the base offering of the premium brands’ offering like Porsche 718 Boxster & Cayman, Jaguar F-Type, BMW Z4, etc. The A90 is a mix breed of Japanese and German engineering. We can hardly conclude anything since we haven’t seen anything like this just yet. With this analysis, I feel the A90 Supra 3.0-litre I6 is going to be priced in the high $40,000s, though additional equipments and accessories may bring up the price quickly.I'm not too sure about that. Possibly for the fully packaged 4 cyl. depending on power maybe. I put together a list of current 4 Cyl turbo cars offered today and what I think this car would be competing with starting prices/weight. The numbers may be off and rounded here and there but are pretty spot on:
(Toyota stats are based on rumors and the weight is what I'm guessing since the 6cyl is to come shy of 3300lbs)
At the end of the day this is a Toyota. Different class when talking about Porsche + Jaguar. I can see Lexus being included in the conversation in terms of brand. But really the Toyota brand is more in class with the vehicles listed at the top of the list and cars it should outperform. So I agree it should start in the $40k+ but it also needs to be at least 300HP+. Based on the rumors, the Civic Type R may be the better buy and it would be sad if a Civic Type R has more HP than a base Supra. The Camero could be the best bang for your buck for what you're getting (not that I would).
BMW has been phasing out vacuum controlled wastegates and exhaust valves over the past 5 years. The few remaining models with them will be out of production before the end of year.
There’s very little info on Gen 3 8HP at the moment as the cars equipped with them are just now beginning to come to market (BMW 8er, new X5, and Supra/Z4 are the first). The main difference is a revised gear spread of 8.0 (Gen 1 7.1, Gen 2 7.8 (7.1 still available if required/requested by manufacturer), further reduced mass, and more complete electronic integration with other vehicle systems. It may sound paradoxical, but to get the most out of the transmission, I highly recommend equipping the car with active PDC, Adaptive Cruise Control, Integrated Navigation, and all Driver Assistance Aids.
Maybe. There’s an investigation currently underway to determine if manufacturers have been using in-cabin switchable Exhaust valves to get around UNECE sound level certification tests. At minimum, the active driving mode profile/transmission selector position will alter the Exhaust Valve operation and at worst, the Bluetooth operated valves will be offered via the in-house aftermarket programs.
Definitely will be a fully electronic system from the wastegate(s) to the Exhaust Flaps. The B46/48 and B58/S58 do not have bypass/diverter/or blow-off valves. Instead the Exhaust flaps work in conjunction with the fully electronic wastegates, valvetronic, and exhaust gas recirculating valve(s) to recycle excess boost through the charge air system when coming off throttle to aid in turbo lag reduction/elimination and cylinder scavaging. It ultimately exits via the Exhaust and causes the “farts” as most call it.
