Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

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That's true for any car discussion...
Yet, there are a lot of people for a car they will never own. Itā€™s easy to like and get excited about a car you canā€™t afford to own. I just wish all of those people will just STFU as their opinion doesnā€™t count.
 

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I think more people are probably a little upset that Toyota hasn't developed this car on their own, rather used a BMW based power plant/engine/interior (based on the prototype), fake vents, no manual. Some people are pure brand haters and don't like BMW (I am not saying that's me), I really don't mind as long as the entire car doesn't scream out BMW.

BRX, manual transmission *may* be coming later, there's no concrete set on whether it's going to be released or not.

Going past all the BMW based stuff, I am looking forward to this car - it's a car that can grow into the tuners market depending on how Toyota will handle the injection or any B58 head limitations that might stop this car from being similar to it's MKIV predecessor in power.
Toyota could develop the Supra on their own. The problem is, it would be very expensive. Would people buy it? I believe only those die hard enthusiasts. Since Toyota wants to make a successor of the MkIV that could go head-to-head with the Porsche 718 Cayman, in terms of performance and pricing, they have to sacrifice on some details like parts similarities with BMW Z4. It isnā€™t bad after all. In the end, you get the best out of the Japanese and German automakers. Best of both brands. Japanese beast with precision engineering.
 

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Good exhaust clips
Good launches

Enjoy. Best goodwood vid yet

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nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope. Never had worked on something like this supra, don't understand the relation between engine covers and the cost cutting, business, partnership, etc. But just ugh, that looks very crappy. NSX and GTR (bugger off, not abt numerical, spec, class and market competiton) has way better looking engine cover. If Toyota is not trolling with this one, I guess that'll be my main complaint right after farts between gear changes. Interior I got no troubles w, actual transmission I'm fine w, wheels I'm fine w, everything else I either don't mind or actually adore.
 

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nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope. Never had worked on something like this supra, don't understand the relation between engine covers and the cost cutting, business, partnership, etc. But just ugh, that looks very crappy. NSX and GTR (bugger off, not abt numerical, spec, class and market competiton) has way better looking engine cover. If Toyota is not trolling with this one, I guess that'll be my main complaint right after farts between gear changes. Interior I got no troubles w, actual transmission I'm fine w, wheels I'm fine w, everything else I either don't mind or actually adore.
What do you prefer? This :crazy:
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Or this :hmm:
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I prefer not even what there is below :rofl:
 

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I like.
It's a little too plasticked-up, so not sure how modding would do on that, but you could just unscrew it...
Although I am not a fan of the plastic as well, BMW motors start to look great after a "few" mods.
Obviously the intake will need compromising because of the W2A intercooler
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From what we can see, comparing the two...

Things that are the same:
Most of it.

Things that are different:
The upper rad support isn't black on the Z4
The plastic engine cover is differnt
The reinforcement bars from the rad support to strut tower (the Supra has a mounting point for them though)

Also, the BMW photo might be a render? Look at the loom on the wiring harness for instance (among other things).

Jeff
 

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Interesting that the motors in the Zupra have the cover extending over the front of the engine as opposed to how it is on a 340i/540i:
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Also, the two biggest things for me are:
-The throttle body is at the same upwards angle on both the Z4 and Supra (as opposed to downwards on every other B58)
-The Intake have the exact same design, same airbox, same resonators etc.

This means the intake manifolds are the same and also likely means the majority of the intake design is the same. If the Supra had a different head, I would reckon it would need a different resonator since it would be harmonically different. And if all that's the same... :dunno:
 

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Iā€™m in shock!
 
 




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