The A70TTR Dedication Thread!

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Agree. I know we're a pain in the ass always asking for info, but A70 gives this place life.

Let's talk about the Gazupra...reading between the lines, this looks like it's going to be a thing. A70, do you know if Tada and company have a blank page to do whatever they want with let's say a GRMN? New block, new head, different trans, built in a Gazoo facility, etc? Is it possible that a lot of the rumors you heard, like composite roof, apply to the full Gazoo and not the basic MKV?

Obviously, a lot of car makers have halos of halo cars, like the GT350R, ZL1 1LE, ZR1, GT4, SRT10 ACR and so on, and the re-engineering is often extensive. Is that in the cards? This looks like a solid base platform to do a lot more.

In my view, a "basic" $55K MKV Cayman chaser, topped by a more in house, all the tricks $95k all Gazooed up car makes market and branding sense, and leads very well into your *ahem* current project(s?).

I mean, hypothetically ;)
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Agree. I know we're a pain in the ass always asking for info, but A70 gives this place life.

Let's talk about the Gazupra...reading between the lines, this looks like it's going to be a thing. A70, do you know if Tada and company have a blank page to do whatever they want with let's say a GRMN? New block, new head, different trans, built in a Gazoo facility, etc? Is it possible that a lot of the rumors you heard, like composite roof, apply to the full Gazoo and not the basic MKV?

Obviously, a lot of car makers have halos of halo cars, like the GT350R, ZL1 1LE, ZR1, GT4, SRT10 ACR and so on, and the re-engineering is often extensive. Is that in the cards? This looks like a solid base platform to do a lot more.

In my view, a "basic" $55K MKV Cayman chaser, topped by a more in house, all the tricks $95k all Gazooed up car makes market and branding sense, and leads very well into your *ahem* current project(s?).

I mean, hypothetically ;)
Lol. I think you are mistaking Toyota for other fun loving car companies. What you described makes sense.. but won’t make sense to toyota since it won’t make any money.
 
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Gazoo definitely has the budget to do pretty much whatever Akio wants (see his personal Toyota Century GRMN lol). It is VERY possible that some of the tech I was told would be on the car, like the carbon roof and one other particular item I have not mentioned will be on that car instead.

However, the ride height adjustability was one of the test items when I was there, and rumors say that made it onto the production car the journalists were driving. So there are still plenty of questions I have, which more or less equate to what ended up on the production car and what tech was dropped and/or moved to a higher variant.
 

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Lol. I think you are mistaking Toyota for other fun loving car companies. What you described makes sense.. but won’t make sense to toyota since it won’t make any money.
Yes, for Toyota I fully agree, which is why I asked about Gazoo. They are run fairly independently for a reason, and a project like that is why. The constraints on them are likely much more loose. A70 would know more about the internal arrangement.

Not saying such a beast would make it to the US as a TRD, however (is "turd" much better than Gazoo? lol)...
 

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Where did all the rumors of the supra being a hybrid come from?

The goodwood car was using a production 6 cyl motor, but is it the highest variant 6 cyl?
 

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In my view, a "basic" $55K MKV Cayman chaser, topped by a more in house, all the tricks $95k all Gazooed up car makes market and branding sense, and leads very well into your *ahem* current project(s?).

I mean, hypothetically ;)
If a 50-55k Supra with 350-380 HP and a 0-60 time of 4.3 seconds is made, it would cause a problem for the Cayman. Cayman starts at 56k, but that's not counting the options on it that would hike the price up another ten grand or more potentially.

The cayman is very unassuming if we are speaking about the base model

. https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-cayman-models/718-cayman/featuresandspecs/

It's the higher trim Supra, the one entering the 60k region that has me curious because realistically, it would be fighting this car off.

https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-cayman-models/718-cayman-s/

Or better yet, this around the same price

https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-gts-models/718-cayman-gts/featuresandspecs/
 

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@A70TTR - there’s no chance that you’re gonna directly answer this lol, and i have absolutely no clue where these rumors are coming from, but is there even the slightest chance that the Supra is getting the S58 or at least some iteration of it? Figured if you can debunk it, it’d be a nice sentiment, and I can stop dreaming about an S58 in the Supra.

Not to knock the B58, but if we had a motor that’s comparable in caliber to that of the S58, then damn, the Supra will sell like hot cakes.
 
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@A70TTR - there’s no chance that you’re gonna directly answer this lol, and i have absolutely no clue where these rumors are coming from, but is there even the slightest chance that the Supra is getting the S58 or at least some iteration of it? Figured if you can debunk it, it’d be a nice sentiment, and I can stop dreaming about an S58 in the Supra.

Not to knock the B58, but if we had a motor that’s comparable in caliber to that of the S58, then damn, the Supra will sell like hot cakes.
I have zero inclination or evidence to believe the car has an S58, but anything is possible (although IMO this is improbable).
 

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@A70TTR - there’s no chance that you’re gonna directly answer this lol, and i have absolutely no clue where these rumors are coming from, but is there even the slightest chance that the Supra is getting the S58 or at least some iteration of it? Figured if you can debunk it, it’d be a nice sentiment, and I can stop dreaming about an S58 in the Supra.

Not to knock the B58, but if we had a motor that’s comparable in caliber to that of the S58, then damn, the Supra will sell like hot cakes.
Those theories were mine. Just thinking outside the box on why there some sources (even the toyota employee in a goodwood interview) were saying the car would have 450hp and 7500 redline
 
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@A70TTR - What led this car to receive the Supra badge? Akio, Tada, or Board of Directors, a combo of all? (Besides the inline 6 + RWD)

Was it more of business led decision aka $$$ or was it purely the outcome of the car deserving it?

If you can't answer all of it I understand but I'm really curious.
 
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It was designed to be that from the get-go, so basically more Akio IMO.

Tada wanted to do a mid engine car, would have probably been called MR2 lol, but Akio was like nah I want an FR platform above the 86. So here we are.
 

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@A70TTR - I don't know if you've seen the new pricing specs for the Z4, but I'm a little confused as to where the Supra should fit. Like, should the top GR spec be a little more expensive than the Z4 M40i or cheaper? Allegedly of course lol.

Z4 M40i = 51k €, Supposedly.
 

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It was designed to be that from the get-go, so basically more Akio IMO.

Tada wanted to do a mid engine car, would have probably been called MR2 lol, but Akio was like nah I want an FR platform above the 86. So here we are.
A mid engine (possibly inline 6) would have been pretty cool. Now I'm really hoping this Supra is not a let down. Because if not we'll be left wondering what if they would've gone that route...
 
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@A70TTR - I don't know if you've seen the new pricing specs for the Z4, but I'm a little confused as to where the Supra should fit. Like, should the top GR spec be a little more expensive than the Z4 M40i or cheaper? Allegedly of course lol.

Z4 M40i = 51k €, Supposedly.
Good questions, but I'm not real sure.

I always figured the two cars would be around the same price, but figured the BMW would cost a bit more given badge, tech, convertible, etc.

I was told, long ago now, that $55k USD was the target price for 6cyl car with expected options. I feel the GRMN car should probably be 15k more IMO, but there's way too many variables (many arbitrary ones) to even make an educated guess.

But based on the latest rumors, maybe both cars will be about the same pricing wise...
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