BMW released Pricelist for G29 Z4 - Prediction for A90 Supra pricing

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Does that say 6 speed manual in German? On the left column?

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Yes but that’s for the last Gen z4
That’s right, Captain_Kirk asked for it.

But there is one thing on the new price list I am wondering about: While the the Z4 30i and M40i came with a ZF AT as a standard, the listed price for the 20i is without automatic transmission. But you have to buy it as an extra. For me it looks like there will be a MT in the future, but only for the 20i. Otherwise it makes no sense.
 

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Z4 sDrive35is: €57,900 with taxes
Z4 M40i: €51,218 plus VAT = €60,949 with taxes
M2 Competition = €61,900 with taxes

So around 5% more expensive than previous generation in the German market, and basically same price as M2 competition.
 
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Z4 sDrive35is: €57,900 with taxes
Z4 M40i: €51,218 plus VAT = €60,949 with taxes
M2 Competition = €61,900 with taxes

So around 5% more expensive than previous generation in the German market, and basically same price as M2 competition.
Please note that the M2 Competition for 61.9 k€ is with manual transmission.
And you should have a look at the trim level. Hard to compare. But all close together.
 

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ppl saying the I6 will start at 50K is out of their frigging mind(i secretly hope they are correct but there's just no way). chances are the I6 will start at 57K and top out at 68K
 

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lol i hope to be proved wrong but i have very little faith in how toyota will price this car. folks who think "look ma my supra runs circle around a corvette and it's cheaper" are going to be very disappointed next year.
 

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lol i hope to be proved wrong but i have very little faith in how toyota will price this car. folks who think "look ma my supra runs circle around a corvette and it's cheaper" are going to be very disappointed next year.
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So the new Z4 m40i pricing has been revealed, and it's starting at £49,000 in the UK and on the configurator, it's known as:

G29 Z4 M40i B58C 3.0i

What are your thoughts on the pricing and do you think the Supra will follow suit with very similar pricing?

I think you guys in the US won't be keen on the pricing at all for the new Supra if this is what the Z4 is being priced at (although all markets are priced differently, I couldn't imagine it would be stupidly different at base after all costs are factored in).
 

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That seems quite high for what it is, an M2 is less money.
 

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That does seem high but you can get discounts on BMW. A new M240 @ about £42k on the road can be bought for about £33k as I did for my M235. There were also discounts on the M2 after about a year. No discounts on the M2 comp at the moment and unlikely on the Z4 for about a year. I dont know about Toyota but i feel it may be out of my budget if it comes in over £45k
 

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This is a tough question and I think even Toyota will have a tough time pricing this car with all the competition since HP is so cheap today.

I believe the models will stack as follows for the US market (mind you, I believe the car is a hard sell even at my predicted prices until I drive the car first hand).

GT86: $26,400 - $32,400 (Base - TRD Respectively from Toyota USA)
230i: $35,000 (according to BMW USA)
Supra 30i: $40,000 (my prediction)
M240i is $45,800 (according to BMW USA)
Z4 30i: $47,000 (currency converted from BMW UK)
Supra 40i: $50,000 (my prediction)
Z4 M40i: $56,500 (currency converted from BMW UK)
M2 Comp: $59,000 (according to BMW USA)

Although the GT86 doesn't compete with the 230i, it is important to mention. I believe the Supra won't be as cheap as it's 2 series equivalent because the Supra 30i would compete too much with the GT86 and will be using more quality materials, sound deadening etc. But if the supra price goes up too much, it won't be able to compete with mustangs, corvette's, Z's, and many sports cars with varying trims.
 

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This is a tough question and I think even Toyota will have a tough time pricing this car with all the competition since HP is so cheap today.

I believe the models will stack as follows for the US market (mind you, I believe the car is a hard sell even at my predicted prices until I drive the car first hand).

GT86: $26,400 - $32,400 (Base - TRD Respectively from Toyota USA)
230i: $35,000 (according to BMW USA)
Supra 30i: $40,000 (my prediction)
M240i is $45,800 (according to BMW USA)
Z4 30i: $47,000 (currency converted from BMW UK)
Supra 40i: $50,000 (my prediction)
Z4 M40i: $56,500 (currency converted from BMW UK)
M2 Comp: $59,000 (according to BMW USA)

Although the GT86 doesn't compete with the 230i, it is important to mention. I believe the Supra won't be as cheap as it's 2 series equivalent because the Supra 30i would compete too much with the GT86 and will be using more quality materials, sound deadening etc. But if the supra price goes up too much, it won't be able to compete with mustangs, corvette's, Z's, and many sports cars with varying trims.
For me, if the 4 cylinder is coming

Supra 30i: 42.700.
Supra 40i: 49,600
Supra 40i: 54,900 (Higher Trim)

I recall A70 saying you can get the 86 20k less instead of the 4 cylinder, but regardless, 10-18g is a huge deposit for most people and I'd imagine that's a good gate keeper from the 86 to the lowest supra trim.

This business model allows people to get the 4 cylinder at a cheap rate and separate it from the high trims as the 30i will be using a six cylinder, ie, more power and the top trim will likely have more upscale interior and power but not as much as the 4 cylinder hiking to the 6.

Granted, they could say fuck it and make the 40i creep to 58k, but I still think Toyota has common sense to get people in the door and buy it because it's cheaper than the competition.
 
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For me, if the 4 cylinder is coming

Supra 20i: 42.700.
Supra 30i: 49,600
Supra 40i: 54,900

I recall A70 saying you can get the 86 20k less instead of the 4 cylinder, but regardless, 10-18g is a huge deposit for most people and I'd imagine that's a good gate keeper from the 86 to the lowest supra trim.

This business model allows people to get the 4 cylinder at a cheap rate and separate it from the high trims as the 30i will be using a six cylinder, ie, more power and the top trim will likely have more upscale interior and power but not as much as the 4 cylinder hiking to the 6.

Granted, they could say fuck it and make the 40i creep to 58k, but I still think Toyota has common sense to get people in the door and buy it because it's cheaper than the competition.
I think there is some confusion here. The 20i and 30i are both 4 cyl B48's. I was under the impression the 20i Supra would not be available in the US.
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