Toyota Supra rumored to be offered with 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder base model

Are you going to buy the 4 cylinder version?


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it's looking like Toyota USA may be optioning the B58 cars out, just like they did with the JZA80 TTs :(

I had been hearing this for a while, but another individual on here commented via PM that the multi-way adjustable seats, nav, and hud are likely to be included at the very least.
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I also played around with VIN search, are all the US cars 6 cylinders?
I could only find 6 cylinder models. Even the 28 Euro models I found (ending in 1000 to 1027) were 340hp 6 cylinders.
I still have many doubts about that 4cyl car... information was about as scare as it gets even back when I was in tune with things, and it's still nowhere to be seen aside from leaked docs and rumors. super weird.
 

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I still have many doubts about that 4cyl car...
The 4 cyl doesnā€™t make a lot of sense. A) it detracts from the halo Supra ā€˜inline 6ā€™ image, B) it will probably be really expensive compared to comparable sports cars (e.g. much more expensive than a base 370Z, Camaro, Mustang etc but way less powerful) without being that much cheaper than the 6 cyl, and C) it conflicts with the existence of the 86, especially a possible mkII 86, which should have similar power to the B48.

If Toyota really want to leverage off nostalgia, and donā€™t want to commit to a mkII 86, they could build a simple, affordable new liftback coupe on TNGA, give it a Toyota 4 cyl, build it in Japan, and call it... Celica! I am sure way more people would line up today to buy a nice new Celica built by Toyota for $25k, than line up to pay $45k for the Euro built Supra with the BMW B48 engine.
 

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it's looking like Toyota USA may be optioning the B58 cars out, just like they did with the JZA80 TTs :(

I had been hearing this for a while, but another individual on here commented via PM that the multi-way adjustable seats, nav, and hud are likely to be included at the very least.
Dang that sucks I especially donā€™t care for multi-way adjustable seats, Iā€™m good with manual ones, power seats add weight anyway.
 
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To be quite honest, I don't completely get the direction of the 4 Cyl. The only benefit I could think of is that it'll be cheaper. Steps above the BRZ/86, but I think most ppl will be more inclined to get a bare bones turbo inline 6.

But, then again maybe Toyota could be taking cues from Ford with the Mustang engine options. Offering the 4 Cyl Ecoboost as an entry, then step up to the V8 for the GT models.

I really think Toyota should spend more time on developing a turbo 4 for the 86 platform. They could sell it as a top option for them and Subaru. Idk, call one the 86 GRMN (TRD for the countries they hate) and the other the BRZ STI?
 

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To be quite honest, I don't completely get the direction of the 4 Cyl. The only benefit I could think of is that it'll be cheaper.
You answered yourself. This is no different than non-turbo MK3's, MK4's, and almost every other car made today
 

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You answered yourself. This is no different than non-turbo MK3's, MK4's, and almost every other car made today
Yeah, I get that in the aspect of selling units it could do fine. I still think a redesigned 86 with the same estimated HP would be a better option. But, that's my preference. More details around the 4 cyl would help, but we'll see in the future.
 

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Yeah, I get that in the aspect of selling units it could do fine. I still think a redesigned 86 with the same estimated HP would be a better option. But, that's my preference. More details around the 4 cyl would help, but we'll see in the future.
Not everyone cares about performance, yeah i know its dumb to buy the bottom trim of a "sports car" but different cars attract different buyers. Such as the the SC300 vs N/A MK4s.
Also, there are people who buy base RCs, 2 series, corvettes etc.
What details do you need on the 4 cylinder? There are dozens of 4 cylinder mules with their vins decoded
 

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I think it likely came down to a decision of whether to move the 86 upmarket with more performance or to create a lower trim Supra, and the Supra ended up being the solution.

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86 was designed to be a successor to the original car, so in other words fun, cheap, reliable, but not fast by any means. so rather than redesign the car and add more power, they can now let it sit for a while and the Supra will be available for those that want what essentially amounts to an upscale turbo 86. Subaru also plays heavily into the 86/BRZ paradigm, although I am unsure as to what their opinions may be.
 

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I think it likely came down to a decision of whether to move the 86 upmarket with more performance or to create a lower trim Supra, and the Supra ended up being the solution.
The thing is Ford sells a 300hp eco boost mustang for what, like under 30k? The car probably doesnā€™t Necessarily need a turbo. If they make it lighter and change that motor that might be enough.
 

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The thing is Ford sells a 300hp eco boost mustang for what, like under 30k? The car probably doesnā€™t Necessarily need a turbo. If they make it lighter and change that motor that might be enough.
bad comparison, don't think any of us want to be driving a boat otherwise we would all have Camaros & Stangs and we wouldn't bickering on this forum about what we want the Supra to turn into.....if it was only as easy as you claim, just make it lighter (already by far the lightest modern 2+2 rwd chassis) and change the motor...yea I'm sure it would stay under $30 K lol...
 
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bad comparison, don't think any of us want to be driving a boat otherwise we would all have Camaros & Stangs and we wouldn't bickering on this forum about what we want the Supra to turn into.....if it was only as easy as you claim, just make it lighter (already by far the lightest modern 2+2 rwd chassis) and change the motor...yea I'm sure it would stay under $30 K ...
Hahaha easy, I was actually going to refine my post (or simply take it down) but I was just too lazy to. I agree with you (And yes I prefer something like the current 86 over an ecoboost mustang, theyā€™re a bit big for my taste) .
 
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