Reviews are in for 2020 Supra MKV preproduction car

Japanese press reviews are on...

Two more reviews.

https://vaaju.com/japaneng/【test-tr...yed-eye-test-drive-hashimoto-yohei-car-watch/

https://newsbeezer.com/japaneng/pro...ssion-on-wet-road-okamoto-koichiro-car-watch/

Ryley beat me to it lol

Found another one.

https://performancedrive.com.au/new-toyota-supra-undergoes-testing-in-australia-1914/

https://www.carlist.my/news/all-new-toyota-supra-tested-australia-ahead-2019-debut/53995/

https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyot...-for-fine-tuning-120401?trackLink=homeVideos1

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/m...a/news-story/0a5142da319337dc6f9aa836fe7e1933

https://www.goauto.com.au/future-mo...unes-supra-in-australia/2018-12-19/76982.html

https://www.motoring.com.au/toyota-supra-gets-aussie-input-116234/

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/australian-tuning-for-new-toyota-supra-116206

Watch the video, it sounds really good.

These guys think a MT is coming.

https://gazoo.com/article/pickup/181214.html

How do critics evaluate the new Supra / Prototype


At the Sodegaura Forest Raceway in early December 2018, a GR model test drive meeting was held for media organized by Toyota Motor Corporation.

At this test-ride, the newly-announced Supra, which has already been attracting attention, although publicly announced, public release of a pedal stepping mistake prevention / suppression device that can be retrofitted, test drive of a new model car, etc. were done. It is the part where we can test drive that prototype.
The new SUPRA has been inherited from A 40/50 type which was sold as Celica XX in Japan and SUPRA in foreign countries, to the A60 type, A 70 type, and A 80 type, which was named SUPRA in Japan as well, It was developed as a completely new model car, as it is the tradition of a combination of engine and FR layout. The model number A90 also represents that tradition. If you look closely at the prototype camouflage, you will find that each part has a model number of A90. This is part of Toyota's feelings about Supra.

The body is designed with priority given to the important points so that the relationship between the tread and the wheelbase and the center of gravity is high, so that the rider can enjoy the pleasure of driving. Unlike the traditional way of emphasizing habitability etc., he says that he is simply approaching development from handling and exercise performance. The stiffness of the body made of aluminum material and steel material is about 2.5 times stronger than 86, stronger than LFA sold exclusively, the development team says.

The drive system combined with such a body can control more aggressive behavior by combining the active differential which can freely change the lock ratio from free state to 100% lock, and adaptive variable suspension It is possible. The six-speed 3-liter turbo engine combines the power and the ease of handling, which generates the maximum torque at 1600 rpm. Moreover, the weight balance is around 50:50.

Evaluation of each new SUPRA and prototype
The prototype A90 SUPRA was tested this time by car critic and racing driver who announces a test ride with magazines and web media. How did those people feel about this A90 SUPRA?

Mr. Junichi Wakisaka For A-Boku A 80 type Supra is like a benefactor who spreads his name. By having fought on Supra's racing car at the All Japan GT Championships, I now have myself. This type of A90 has been driving for the first time this time, but it is a car that you want to step on the accelerator and want to return the accelerator. The sense of acceleration and the smoothness of the rise from the corner, this is exceptional, I think that it is a car that can feel sports, including blipping when shifting down.

Motoharu Kurosawa Mr. Motoharu I originally said that Japanese cars say that the body is moving too much. It is because the rear becomes a pear and the timing of the start slips faster if it moves too much. That part was a big difference between making European cars and making Japanese car manufacturers. From the level of such a Japanese car, this new SUPRA is about 2 steps better. It can be said that it is clearly a part to be evaluated. To put it even further, because it has improved so far, the front desires to increase the reaction force that supports the car a little more and controls the movement of the car body as a direction to improve the submersion of the rear suspension by about two steps. Then it should be an international standard.

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  Mr. Juichi Wakisaka
  Original · Racing driver
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  Motoharu Kurosawa
  Auto critic, ex-racing driver

Kataoka Hideaki Mr. A80 SUPRA was a car that was positioned like a Grand Touring, but this A90 SUPRA is a pure sports and a good ride. The feeling of the rudder when cutting the steering wheel and the impression received from the body rigidity surface, but the narrow cockpit that can be wrapped also seems so. However, we felt that we are feeling comfortable riding on a short wheelbase, and moving considerably over the entire area is quite running.

Mr. Akihiko Nakaya --- In a word, it was very good. It is also called prototype, how about this? There was a part that I felt, but it is boring to just lose some wonderful parts now because I want to fix it. That's where I want the development team to do well. What I can say now is that this car has a high running feeling that is not found in Toyota cars so far.

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  Mr. Hideaki Kataoka
  Motor Journalist
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  Akihiko Nakaya Mr.
  Racing driver, car critic

Mr. Matsuda Hideo Mr. Matsuda may be a car whose active differential can be said to be a big point. It can be said that this LSD is controlling about 80% of the maneuverability of this SUPRA. The general LSD is to change the internal cam or change the initial torque to make the driver do what you like, but this active differential can not tamper with the driver how to use it. The sensor senses the movement of the car and automatically controls the way LSD is used between 0% and 100% lock. Therefore, if you say Assassi, you can run as fast as you go, leaving the car no matter who rides. But understanding the fact that a person who knows the basic part of the car rides and under such circumstances in such a case will understand that if you understand the place to control it, you should either take control of it or turn it over to a higher level I think I'll run in. Conversely, the A90 Supra has the charm that makes me think so.

Saito Satoshi - ー ー ー ー メ チ ャ チ ャ. I already have various information and I think many people are looking forward to this A90 SUPRA, but I am looking forward to it and it's okay. I can not betray expectations, so I can save money now so that I can move at the same time as I publish. The movement of the car felt that it was particularly good. If you bend straight and get off the steering wheel where you want to go, the car goes firmly there. Well, cutting too much and returning steering, or cutting it off, so cutting it off, what you say is that you should be on the car. But for Supra it is not there. So always there is a sense of unity with the car and you can run with the feeling that your driving has improved. The point where the reaction to the operation performed by the driver correctly comes out from the side of the car can be said to be a point of this pleasure.

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  Mr. Hideto Matsuda
  Racing driver, car critic
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  Mr. Satoshi Saito
  Car critic

I heard from all the critics who gathered is the impression that "a car that turns well". You can imagine that a new type of Supra that people riding a variety of cars all over the world speaks uniformly is a car with high sports performance.
How do you feel when you get on? Even thinking about such a thing is exciting one.

GrayFox_MK5 said:

Sure the Mk5 will be a faster car out of the box than a Mk4. It has to. Lighter car, shorter wheelbase, more power/tq, newer platform, newer chassis and suspension. These things matter to the potential buyer yes and the Mk5 will clearly "mop" the floor like that. But you gotta remember the Mk4 is widely respected for it's straight line speed and unlimited tuning potential. The Mk5 will always be compared to the Mk4 in that regard.

EDIT god I hope the steering feel on the Mk5 is good. BMW has the worst electric steering feel in their modern cars.

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The new M5, M3CS, and M2C, have good steering. But overall, I agree bmw hasn’t been like they were in the past in that department.

From the reviews I read the Supra looks to be pretty sharp and has feel.

GrayFox_MK5 said:

Those are full blown M cars. The Z4 and Supra share the same platform and the same suspension. M cars have wider tracks, tailor made suspension setups and LSD's to give them that special feeling. And even then, modern M cars with electric steering still don't feel as good as previous ones with hydraulic. Electric steering is here to stay sure but BMW just somehow can't seem to get it right when others (Porsche, Honda, Audi) can. Idk why.

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That's part of the input Toyota gave.

GrayFox_MK5 said:

Those are full blown M cars. The Z4 and Supra share the same platform and the same suspension. M cars have wider tracks, tailor made suspension setups and LSD's to give them that special feeling. And even then, modern M cars with electric steering still don't feel as good as previous ones with hydraulic. Electric steering is here to stay sure but BMW just somehow can't seem to get it right when others (Porsche, Honda, Audi) can. Idk why.

Also which reviews of the new Supra have you read?

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The reviews are posted on this site, evo, top gear, etc...

You do know the wheels and tire set up of the Supra is the same as the M3/M4?? 255/275. The Supra I believe uses an M differential. Modern M cars like the ones I’ve mentioned steer great, go drive the the m5, m2, etc. Audi, Honda, do not steer better. Audi steering has no feel at all, past or present from my exp. whether it is the R8 or thier rs5, s4.

The past e9X M3, imo, did not steer all that great, the f80 is better. I actually prefer the steering of the e9X 335 over the e9X M3 and I used to own one.