Official: Toyota Supra TRD Performance Line Concept

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Imagine an S58 with Toyota reliability?
Good times for sure.

Who would have imagined that Toyota would be the one to refine a BMW motor. Iā€™m all for it.
 

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Am I the only one confused by the intake path? I see a single inlet with 2 charge pipes going over the engine to what I presume is the W2A interocooler which would then go into the intake. Whatā€™s the inlet on the right for? Assuming it has a W2A intercooler like the S55, what does this indirect intercooler boy do?
 

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I thought the same thing, however, word on the street is that the Z4M will only come with a manual mated to a S58. Something to consider...
When was a Z4M confirmed? BMW has stated multiple times they have no interest in making an M model of this car. I'm mean... where would the pricing even begin considering the Z4 m40i will start at $65K? I think we may be looking at the GRMN Supra powerplant
 

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Am I the only one confused by the intake path? I see a single inlet with 2 charge pipes going over the engine to what I presume is the W2A interocooler which would then go into the intake. Whatā€™s the inlet on the right for? Assuming it has a W2A intercooler like the S55, what does this indirect intercooler boy do?
It has two intakes one from both passenger and driver sides. I assume the air gets water cooled before entering the turbos at the top of the engine unless the air filters are up there which would be weird. It then goes out to the turbos and merges together in one single pipe at the front of the engine before going into the W2A intercooler which is directly bolted to the intake manifold.
 

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Speaking of, the Carrera GT's gas tank is literally inside the seat. There is def some head scratchers with German engineering. The air cooled to water cooled transition has been a little rough for Porsche. The 996/997 GT3 and Turbo models spilling coolant because the coolant pipe flange adhesive got too hot and chemically failed, IMS bearing on the 996/997 M96 and M97 engines and even with my 997, the infamous bore scoring for the 3.8L engines. They are not perfect but damn they are a dream to drive.

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The GR, RC-F Track Edition and TRD wheels are forged alloy with the exception of the GR wheels not made by BBS.

Those pieces combine to produce an unspecified amount of extra downforce from all their extruding fins. You'll notice the Supra isn't wearing its normal 19-inch forged wheels any more, either. TRD went with a different design for its 19-inch forged aluminum wheel. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but it's hard to see this wheel design as much improvement over the stock wheel ā€” and no claims of it being any lighter are made
I canā€™t remember where but after Paul walkers death there was a report written about how unsafe the Porscheā€™s design was. Due to the placement of the fuel tank it should have been manufactured to basically formula 1 standards of tank but they used materials you would find in any old hatchback. Absoutely disgraceful honestly and they should be ashamed. I would like to say I canā€™t believe this oversight but itā€™s german so makes sense
 
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When was a Z4M confirmed? BMW has stated multiple times they have no interest in making an M model of this car. I'm mean... where would the pricing even begin considering the Z4 m40i will start at $65K? I think we may be looking at the GRMN Supra powerplant
Yeah, BMW has mentioned that the Z4 M40i will be powerful enough that a purebred M version won't be necessary. However, BMW has said this before on their other cars as well, and done the opposite. I also agree that this might make it into the Supra because speaking numbers, the Supra should outsell the Z4...opening more opportunities for higher trims.

"Frƶhlich implied he'd be open to the possibility if there was demand, but that seems unlikely. The sports-car market it small, so BMW probably doesn't want to invest in giving the Z4 a manual, when it likely wouldn't sell many."

These are the same if not exact words by Tada San on the Supra. I think they both don't want to jump the gun on anything and distract buyers with a "future" model.
 

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Am I the only one confused by the intake path? I see a single inlet with 2 charge pipes going over the engine to what I presume is the W2A interocooler which would then go into the intake. Whatā€™s the inlet on the right for? Assuming it has a W2A intercooler like the S55, what does this indirect intercooler boy do?
Pretty sure the big box on top is the air cleaner and the two tubes down are the inlets to the turbos based on diameter and how they locate to the centerline of the turbo. The two that run across the crank pulley are probably the compressed side and loop around and under the intake.
 

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Pretty sure the big box on top is the air cleaner and the two tubes down are the inlets to the turbos based on diameter and how they locate to the centerline of the turbo. The two that run across the crank pulley are probably the compressed side and loop around and under the intake.
Hmm Ill be interested in seeing why they chose to have the air box on top of the motor resulting in 4 total plastic tubes instead of a single tube with 'Y' pipe to each turbo
 

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I canā€™t remember where but after Paul walkers death there was a report written about how unsafe the Porscheā€™s design was. Due to the placement of the fuel tank it should have been manufactured to basically formula 1 standards of tank but they used materials you would find it any old hatchback. Absoutely disgraceful honestly and they should be ashamed. I would like to say I canā€™t believe this oversite but itā€™s german so makes sense
Porsche is the better engineering German brand in all honesty. Most of their issues stemmed from dishonest suppliers. Their GT3 cars are beautifully engineered cars....but with flaws not related to Porsche engineering or manufacturing. For example, the loose connecting rod bolts on the GT3 that has caused millions in repairs is not due to Porsche's engineering, but the supplier of the torque-to-yield bolts. They were not to spec as Porsche specified. The gas tank on the Carrera GT's is a tough one to be honest, because how many Carrera GT's can you wreck in testing to determine it's 100% fire safe before production? Carrera GT's are not cheap. This is why people need to appreciate Toyota's quality checks on the B58 down to the nuts and bolts. It is spot checking the suppliers work.

Still, I love Porsche and one day will own a 911.
 
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