Official 2020 JDM Toyota Supra, Press Release, Images & Videos

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I am just basing this on the MKIV structure as it shares an almost identical structure, however I believe the SZ-R will possible incorporate better features (eg. bigger brakes, better audio system and other additional features). Hence the difference weight, price, power etc. Pretty stupid if you ask me, it's typically been done in response to gain 3 scales of the market.

1. SZ targets people who want the absolute lowest trim (eg. people who just want a 'supra' for the lowest possible price and whom have no idea about performance, power etc).
2. SZ-R will target people based on added features (better audio, performance etc) for an average price tag.
3. RZ will target anyone who has a lot of money and wants everything including the increased power.

Now I am just basing this on how corporate people generally make decisions. Typically their primary goal is to sell as many Supra's as possible, make a shitload of cash and make their investors (which they own part of the company)... happy. All in all it's very smart and will no doubt sell a lot of units of the SZ/RZ will sell quite heavily (IMO) compared to the SZ-R.

This is generally how a public company is run - a simple money making machine. While you cannot blame them I would have preferred them to stick to their grass roots and actually be innovative for a change. For instance, take some notes from Nintendo - they impress time and time again with re-releases of new games which are now being made by the new generation of Nintendo engineers whom have been trained by the same man who made Nintendo successful in the early days *and it shows based on their latest lineup of games that have been released*.

The fact that this car has been purely re-engaged and is heavily hyped on the primary fact that it's all a numbers game in the corporate world of Toyota. Things aren't like they were once before and yes before all you MKV lovers bash me - this car does not represent a Toyota Supra in its previous generations in anyway besides being a glorified car that's been outsourced to BMW with the only similarity being that it's an inline 6.

On the other hand, kudos to the marketing team - they seem to be doing a great job advertising & paying high profile people to compliment this car. Seems like they got one thing right.
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edit: should've watched the video above.... nothing new here i guess, move on :drive:


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It seems like the lower spec JDM models will have the same exterior (LED headlights etc) bar the premium 19" wheels and bigger brakes...

If the "SZ-R is made available in South Africa it may be a good option if considerably cheaper than the "RZ". I suspect that the RZ will be priced at ZAR 1 million at least.
 

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I don’t get it why it has to be offered with 2 states of tune of the 4-cylinder engine in Japan....:hmm:
Basicaly that is a bmw strategy!In EU they always offered the Z4 in two lower trims for the inline 4.I think the 197hp version targets those who really like the car and aim just to cruise on a nice coupe,they want good fuel consumption and they don't care for the bigger versions!Also a lot of countries have taxes according to hp so it is perfect for daily use and cruising.The 250hp version is like i can't buy the 6cylinder but i want a perfomance coupe :drive:
 

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Basicaly that is a bmw strategy!In EU they always offered the Z4 in two lower trims for the inline 4.I think the 197hp version targets those who really like the car and aim just to cruise on a nice coupe,they want good fuel consumption and they don't care for the bigger versions!Also a lot of countries have taxes according to hp so it is perfect for daily use and cruising.The 250hp version is like i can't buy the 6cylinder but i want a perfomance coupe :drive:
Lexus also does this with the IS300 AWD, which is the exact same car as the IS350 AWD with a different tune to knock 50 hp off.

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Lexus also does this with the IS300 AWD, which is the exact same car as the IS350 AWD with a different tune to knock 50 hp off.

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Didn't Lexus used to name their cars with cc like is200 is 2000cc and is300 is 3000cc or am i ages behind?? :p
 

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Didn't Lexus used to name their cars with cc like is200 is 2000cc and is300 is 3000cc or am i ages behind?? :p
They did in the past. Starting with the introduction of hybrid models they moved away from that (RX400h has a 3.3L, RX450h has a 3.5L, LS600hL has a 5.0L, LS500h has a 3.5L, CT200h has a 1.8L, HS250h has a 2.4L, IS300h has a 2.5L, etc.).

Isn't the IS300 the 4 cyl turbo now?
When Lexus killed the IS250 in North America, they replaced the IS250 RWD with the IS200t RWD moving from 204hp to 241hp. To replace the IS250 AWD, instead of developing an AWD version of the IS200t, they detuned the 2GR-FSE in the IS350 AWD down to 255hp and called it the IS300 AWD. It is exactly the same car with a different ECU tune.

The IS200t was renamed the IS300 RWD for 2018. The IS300 AWD is still a 3.5L V6 shared with the IS350 (2GR-FKS).

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I just saw this on JNC

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/news-toyota-to-revive-supra-turbo-a-designation-add-horsepower/

Toyota will reportedly revive one of its most beloved Supra trims levels, according to Japan’s automotive tabloids. Car Top magazine in its April issue reports that in 2021, fans of the Toyota sports car can expect a higher-output version called the Supra Turbo A.

The original Toyota Supra Turbo A was introduced in August 1988. Based on the A70’s 3.0GT Turbo trim level, it was a homologation special, created to qualify the Supra Turbo for the Group A class (hence its name) of the Japan Touring Car Championships. With increased turbocharger and intercooler capacity, the 7M-GTEU engine generated 270 PS, at the time the highest output of any Japanese car yet.

Marked by the signature vent in its front fascia, the cars were available in exclusively in black, with color-matched side strips and alloy wheels wrapped in 225/50 R16 92V Bridgestone Potenza RE71 performance tires. Inside, the Turbo A featured leather 8-way power seats, as well as a leather wrapped steering wheel and shift knob manufactured by Momo. All Turbo A models were fixed roof and came only with a 5-speed manual transmission. As homologation specials go, production was limited, and only 500 were made.

With the new Supra, Car Top magazine is reporting that in 2021, a Supra Turbo A will hit the market. It claims that this will be the top trim level and see an increase of 30 horsepower, for a total of 365. What other features it may come with are unknown at this time. As is always the case with these types of rumors, it is best to take it with a grain of salt.

However, it is somewhat exciting that we might see a return of the Turbo A. Toyota has made no secret about its intentions to take the Supra racing, with Super GT, GT4, and even NASCARversions in the works. As such, it seems a homologation edition would be a no-brainer, but as we know from experience, that doesn’t necessarily mean Toyota will do it.
 

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With the new Supra, Car Top magazine is reporting that in 2021, a Supra Turbo A will hit the market. It claims that this will be the top trim level and see an increase of 30 horsepower, for a total of 365.






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"Toyota GR Supra Turbo A".

Very concise, lol.
It's gonna sound like a Spanish name by the time the last Supra leaves the assembly line. :D

LOL!

Just as long as it doesn't have more HP then the Z4 or else BMW is going to have a fit.
 

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I think BMW surprising with 382hp was BMW's fit. Toyota will have a response.
Yeah, 382.5HP for the 2022 model. Toyota needs to stop with this conservative crap.

It'll be a 2021MY Supra(will get here next year)
So Toyota won't have to worry much about being on good terms with BMW
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