Toyota may build Supra convertible / targa instead of 86 convertible

What roof options would you like to see available

  • Convertible

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • Targa

    Votes: 41 56.2%
  • Hardtop only!

    Votes: 27 37.0%

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I’ll be first to call bullshit!

They tried the same thing on the FT86 forum with the convertibles, targa top, shooting brake photoshops. Toyota unveiled an actual GT86 Shooting Brake but then again Tada likes to tease.

“It's a design study, the company says, and it's just "testing the waters."
 

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I'll be extremely surprised if Toyota introduces a manual or a targa variant. The original design doesn't accommodate for either, while changes can be made - the base 2020 model will not have the correct body structure (eg. sub tunel, required holes, loom etc). This will be a massive amount of work for Toyota to now include it in.

Same applies for the targa, if it doesn't fit in the boot don't think they'll just say - hey, we'll make a targa, but you can't put it back on unless you pick it up from where you left it. It'll be detrimental to their brand/car and stupid.
 

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According to the Trunk design of the MKV, I highly doubt there will be Targa option. There is NO room to fit the top unless they redesign the Trunk. Also having a Targa that you store in your garage on those nice sunny days is pointless.
There's room, just not transversely. You'd need to turn the roof panel 90 degrees before inserting it into the trunk.
2020-toyota-supra-trunk.jpg
 

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I'll be extremely surprised if Toyota introduces a manual or a targa variant. The original design doesn't accommodate for either, while changes can be made - the base 2020 model will not have the correct body structure (eg. sub tunel, required holes, loom etc). This will be a massive amount of work for Toyota to now include it in.

Same applies for the targa, if it doesn't fit in the boot don't think they'll just say - hey, we'll make a targa, but you can't put it back on unless you pick it up from where you left it. It'll be detrimental to their brand/car and stupid.
Or you could just rotate the targa.
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The body already has holes for a CMC, it just need an interior panel. Wiring looms? Not all trims use the same looms so this isn't an issue
 

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The thing is, do they want people to buy the car to prove that they want a manual? And then what? Replace the car when the manual comes out? What do they think that people are made of gold? And what would the automatic sales say about the people buying it? That they want a manual and not an automatic that's why they bought it? They are ridiculous honestly.
 

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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/geneva-motor-show/revealed-future-new-toyota-supra#8

How about a Supra roadster?
“I think targa would be a higher probability or possibility than an open car version,” says Tada. This is no surprise. Build a roadster and you tread straight on BMW’s toes. Do a Targa and you nod back to earlier Supras.

Besides, Tada comments, a full electric roof “would be heavier, it would disturb the handling. And handling is everything”.

He went on to say that there are some difficulties with a targa top. “I’ve looked at it, and some customers say that it’s hard to store the roof and that once it’s been removed they don’t ever want to have [to do] it again… and because it’s tied to storage.”

Fair points, but not insurmountable. How about a clever electric mechanism? “That would be heavier.” So probably not. But surely a manually removable panel or panels that could be stored in the car would be a viable solution? No comment. It would be lightweight, and wouldn’t reduce the Supra’s LFA-beating structural stiffness? Still no comment. I reckon that’s as close as we’ll get to a confirmation.
 

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Let's not put all the weight on top. Targas at least you can unbolt it and leave it out of the car. Gets it back to close to the hardtop weight.

I hope Tada doesn't listen to the 3 house wives he talked to complaining about how hard it is to remove the mk4 roof. It really is the best design for such a thing. There are no real sacrifices when the roof is bolted on right. Try a Del Sol or every TTop car ever sometime and then tell me I'm wrong.
 

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Let's not put all the weight on top. Targas at least you can unbolt it and leave it out of the car. Gets it back to close to the hardtop weight.

I hope Tada doesn't listen to the 3 house wives he talked to complaining about how hard it is to remove the mk4 roof. It really is the best design for such a thing. There are no real sacrifices when the roof is bolted on right. Try a Del Sol or every TTop car ever sometime and then tell me I'm wrong.
I mean, I think you're kind of wrong; but I also think it's worth the sacrifice most of the time. Any difference in rigidity is probably not noticeable to most people daily driving the things.
 

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I mean, I think you're kind of wrong; but I also think it's worth the sacrifice most of the time. Any difference in rigidity is probably not noticeable to most people daily driving the things.
Rigidity is not the issue with this platform. The Z4 is literally only a convertible. I am certain there would be no discernible difference in stiffness.
 

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Rigidity is not the issue with this platform. The Z4 is literally only a convertible. I am certain there would be no discernible difference in stiffness.
Is the assumption that the Z4 is equally as stiff as the Supra?
 
 




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