2020 Supra (A90) Reviews Compilation!

BrettS said:

Matt Farrah called him out in his podcast. Basically saying how Harris hasn’t ever cared about Toyota and their heritage but now all the sudden he’s an expert.

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I personally stopped following him when he left Drive and went to the shitty version of Top Gear. I mean all he does is drift everything and he barely talks the about ins and outs of the car. Which is cool for people who care for that but I much prefer someone like OG Top Gear/The Grand Tour, Matt Farah or Zack Klapman, Savagegeese, The Straight Pipes, Everday Driver, Engineering Explained, Matt Maran Motoring, Carfection's Alex Goy or Henry Cathpole, Steve Sutcliffe from Evo Magazine, and of course the Best Motoring/Hot Version guys (Tsuchiya, Orido and Tanuguchi...grew up with their DVD's) over Chris Harris.

But that's just my opinion. Some people like him and that's cool.

F1 Silver Arrows said:

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN OTHER THREAD'S DIDN'T I? AND I GOT BASHED BY SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ME CALLING OUT ON HIS TWITTER POSTS. In other words, .

Wake up people. Chris Harris is an arrogant douchebag who couldn't give a less of a fuck about Japanese cars. Only sucks fat Honda cock. And that goes for a lot of brits out there unfortunately. Some other Europeans (like the Dutch and Spanish for example) are more open minded and understand Japanese cars but a lot of them are dense assholes too.

I knew this was going to happen. And I told you all. Chris, you're probably not going to be reading this, but if you are, this review is your lowest point in your entire goddamn career. It shows that you're just another blithering knob brit who misses the point. Every. Single. Time. You're washed up. Now fuck off.

I literally wanted to tag and quote the majority of people who shat on Chris Harris too in page 9 after his review was posted but it's literally too many. Good on Matt Farah for calling him out as well. At least Matt Farah UNDERSTANDS good Japanese cars and actually HAS BUSINESS with them. Not Chris Harris. All you see him drool about are Aston Martins, Porsches, BMWs, Hondas, and the occasional Ferraris and Bentleys. He's literally clueless when he reviews other cars. AND YES, I am not biased because of the Supra. I've actually READ and watched A LOT of his reviews. He's just a fucking idiot and that's that.

We know it is codeveloped with BMW. Or else it would have been expensive as hell. And by the way, your explanation of everything is arse. Did you actually review the goddamn car? Bye Felicia.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Lol my version was the "nice" one. I like this better

Pheonix said:

Couldn't have said it better myself. Lol my version was the "nice" one. I like this better

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Awe thank you! Yours was quite accurate as well. He's just washed up. He needs to go. Only thing that's keeping him alive are the British car enthusiasts who think he's the Messiah.

By the way, SEXY GT4. My all time favorite and dream (relatively affordable) car.

SupraFiend said:

His points are perfectly valid and I'm glad he has the balls to say them. Many Japanese enthusiasts feel exactly the same way about this car, myself included. His comments about the inherent Japaneseness that cars from the Land of the Rising Sun have are particularly spot on. I'm glad a journalist is bringing a different perspective to the table, most of the reviews so far have sounded the same.

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If Tada-san is saying this car feels Japanese. THEN IT IS JAPANESE.

This MotorTrend review (back when they were still badass) of the BMW M6 and the BMW Alpina B6. Watch it and you'll understand where I am coming from. Everyone keep saying German ingredients (with a lot of Japanese too) can't easily make either a Japanese or a German car (case in point, the Supra and Z4).

But it's all about what they did with the basic ingredients and made two unique separate dishes, how they made it special, how they enhanced them to be the best the ingredients they can be and do them justice, most of all how they are distinctly different from each other (in the case of the Z4/Supra OR the BMW M6/BMW Alpina B6). Honestly, watch the review and you'll finally get it.

F1 Silver Arrows said:

Awe thank you! Yours was quite accurate as well. He's just washed up. He needs to go. Only thing that's keeping him alive are the British car enthusiasts who think he's the Messiah.

By the way, SEXY GT4. My all time favorite and dream (relatively affordable) car.

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Thanks man. The new Supra is gonna be affordable (if dealers don't mark it up to $80k+) and will probably give my GT4 a run for it's money. I used to think Harris was great when he was on The Drive and Chris Harris on Cars on Youtube. It was fun seeing him drift around in everything. Then watched him on the second season of the bad version of Top Gear with Matt LeBlanc and thought LeBlanc was way better than him. Chris is pretty much just a YT reviewer brought onto Top Gear. Hr pretty much did the same thing on Top Gear that he did on YT which doesn't work.

Pheonix said:

Thanks man. The new Supra is gonna be affordable (if dealers don't mark it up to $80k+) and will probably give my GT4 a run for it's money. I used to think Harris was great when he was on The Drive and Chris Harris on Cars on Youtube. It was fun seeing him drift around in everything. Then watched him on the second season of the bad version of Top Gear with Matt LeBlanc and thought LeBlanc was way better than him. Chris is pretty much just a YT reviewer brought onto Top Gear. Hr pretty much did the same thing on Top Gear that he did on YT which doesn't work.

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Same dude. I actually think we're one of the few who actually liked Matt LeBlanc the most. He gave me a very soft Jeremy Clarkson vibe without trying to be him while being unique. Shame he left.

Captain_Kirk said:

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She likes that thump in the back....

Back to your echo chamber gentlemen. Heaven forbid if someone expressed an opinion that contradicted your own.

Both myself, and Chris Harris, agree that it is a very good car. We just are having trouble with something with a Toyota emblem and Supra badge that doesn't feel like a Toyota. Slightly harder rear subframe bushings and an aggressive tune don't instantly make it Japanese. I get it, many don't care and are just happy to have the nameplate back. Others like myself who have owned 20 Supras plus many other Toys over the last few decades, feel like Toyota took the easy way out here. I waited to make up my mind till I saw the thing in person. I stood in front of it for half an hour at the car show... and felt nothing for it. Sorry, it will work for some, not others. You're welcome to like it and I hope it does well.

SupraFiend said:

Back to your echo chamber gentlemen. Heaven forbid if someone expressed an opinion that contradicted your own.

Both myself, and Chris Harris, agree that it is a very good car. We just are having trouble with something with a Toyota emblem and Supra badge that doesn't feel like a Toyota. Slightly harder rear subframe bushings and an aggressive tune don't instantly make it Japanese. I get it, many don't care and are just happy to have the nameplate back. Others like myself who have owned 20 Supras plus many other Toys over the last few decades, feel like Toyota took the easy way out here. I waited to make up my mind till I saw the thing in person. I stood in front of it for half an hour at the car show... and felt nothing for it. Sorry, it will work for some, not others. You're welcome to like it and I hope it does well.

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It would be nice if you read my comments. I am not biased.

As for the rest, people like you have a valid opinion. Chris doesn't. He claims to know about Toyotas and Japanese history but he doesn't know shit. And all he whined about was about the partnership. He barely even reviewed the car. Also Toyota did more than that. They tried their best to reverse-engineer a lot of the components and the all new platform while it does use BMW hardware, the intellectual work and engineering design was jointly done by both Toyota and BMW.

Also for anyone who watched Matt Farah's podcast, can you give me the timestamp(s) on where he called out Chris Harris?

Now that I actually went through the magazine scan: What a waste of time; he miserably failed to relay what's "wrong with its DNA".
and no, am not defending the A90 or anything (am not paying a cent on an automatic) but..

..He purposely eluded to be specific in conveying what's wrong about the car.

Instead, he imparted a "fan service", circling the "oMG zUpra is sh!t L0L!!1!!" mainstream IG hype (badge engineering..seriously?); which is unsubstantiated, to say the least. proof of this his last statement about the scrawny alpine.

Japanese cars' DNA is "rigorous Madness"?...wtf is that supposed to mean? madness as in the cars is "playful" from the fact that them JDM's are less rigid, hence "prone to understeer AND oversteer at the same time" kinda madness? Rigorous as in them Japanese Ph.D.'s still made them handle well despite the "madness"? ...daffuq? Japanese makers didn't care about body-in-white rigidity until like mid-'90s (source: MotoIQ), and they still have lower caster angles, hence the "lighter steering". A90's Rigidity and heavy steering... does that make it a German car?

Stiffer subframe bushings; according to him, THAT is a trait of Japanese DNA. smh.... (Fun Fact: The rear axle's behavior is governed by the rear geometry, especially anti-squat, far more than the bushings).

When explaining an experience, making the audience "burn calories" to understand wtf he's saying is just bad writing. car reviews or otherwise.

Other reviewers who expressed salient scrutiny about the A90 were very specific. The Curb Weight. The Steering Ratio. heck, the Front End.
I wouldn't mind a bad review of the A90. I do hope for one, a proper one. Looking forward to when Mr.Clarkson takes the wheel xD

This is just a pedestrian review; prejudiced to denigrate the car. All the talk about the "Badge" and "cute story" of Toyota corroborates that he's simply stuck in the mindset of a "consumer". Seriously disappointed in this guy.

SupraFiend said:

Back to your echo chamber gentlemen. Heaven forbid if someone expressed an opinion that contradicted your own.

Both myself, and Chris Harris, agree that it is a very good car. We just are having trouble with something with a Toyota emblem and Supra badge that doesn't feel like a Toyota. Slightly harder rear subframe bushings and an aggressive tune don't instantly make it Japanese. I get it, many don't care and are just happy to have the nameplate back. Others like myself who have owned 20 Supras plus many other Toys over the last few decades, feel like Toyota took the easy way out here. I waited to make up my mind till I saw the thing in person. I stood in front of it for half an hour at the car show... and felt nothing for it. Sorry, it will work for some, not others. You're welcome to like it and I hope it does well.

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The difference is that what you wrote here is all that needs to be said. No one here likes the collab, but people here has moved passed that and want to hear about the actual car. For example, information on things like "interior quality on par with what you see in an Avalon" is way more beneficial than "the interior has many BMW located throughout the cabin"

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