johnny_10196
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I agree with a lot of your points, but the test car does appear to be around the same size as the MKIV.
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2JZ-No-Sh*t
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A comparison from another forum. The prototype does appear to be larger than the 86.
bogglo
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I wish someone could delete this thread. How recent was those code posted. why would Toyota let BMW give out information about there car(Yes I know they working together but still it don't make sense) the only way this is true is if the FT1 is the new celica.
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These codes were posted within the last few months, so not that long ago. And the J29 Supra shows up in the BMW model codes list because they're co-developing it with Toyota, so it's not as if BMW needs permission from Toyota to list the car in their own private internal document containing all models they're working on (and worked on). Just so happens this internal doc got leaked.
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There is no proof this doc is legit. Hell if I was PR for the relaunch of an Icon...I'd stir the pot with as much crap as possible to get interest in my new product.
I mentioned this in another thread, but it's very difficult to compare images to represent scale because there is a fairly large amount of perspective change based off of camera sensor size and zoom distance (bg compression).A comparison from another forum. The prototype does appear to be larger than the 86.
FWIW, the MKIV and the 86 are fairly similar sizes, but the 86 has a longer wheelbase, and the Supra has longer overhangs (that's why people think it's bigger). When you put them side by side though, they look the same more or less. I can only imagine that the MKV will be roughly the same wheelbase as the 86 and perhaps a little bit bigger to accommodate the longer hood and potentially more interior space.
This is an old photo in my driveway that shows how the MKIV Supra tends to look larger than the 86, despite similar dimensions. The width and exaggerated features (like the headlights) play a big role in that.
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Yeah these overlap comparisons aren't 100% accurate. But the press release did say it will be a midsize sports car. I actually think the MK5's wheelbase will be shorter than the 86's 101.2 inch simply because its based on the Z platform. The E85 @98.2 inches and the E89 @98.3 inches.I mentioned this in another thread, but it's very difficult to compare images to represent scale because there is a fairly large amount of perspective change based off of camera sensor size and zoom distance (bg compression).
FWIW, the MKIV and the 86 are fairly similar sizes, but the 86 has a longer wheelbase, and the Supra has longer overhangs (that's why people think it's bigger). When you put them side by side though, they look the same more or less. I can only imagine that the MKV will be roughly the same wheelbase as the 86 and perhaps a little bit bigger to accommodate the longer hood and potentially more interior space.
This is an old photo in my driveway that shows how the MKIV Supra tends to look larger than the 86, despite similar dimensions. The width and exaggerated features (like the headlights) play a big role in that.
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Very nice picThis is an old photo in my driveway that shows how the MKIV Supra tends to look larger than the 86, despite similar dimensions. The width and exaggerated features (like the headlights) play a big role in that.
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Like Guff said, the overall length differences between the 86 and MK4 is less than 11 inches. But the internet experts almost always make it sound like the 86 is tiny like the 1st gen Miata and the Supra huge like a Dodge Challenger.
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spot on about the wheel base,
from this pic one can see that the tire used for that mule is 225/50 R17, so it has a diameter of 658mm
i looked for the most "perpendicular" view of the side profile, using that tire/wheel above; i couldn't get a better angle than this pic
with a ruler on my screen (LOL) i measured the on screen diam of the tire (which i know is ~658mm in reality) and the distance between the center of the wheels hub caps, it turned out the wheelbase is roughly ~98.7 in! this puts it between the 86 (101.2in) and the 991.2 911 (96.7in)
though; don't quote me on the exact figure, i zoomed in to try to get as accurate as i can get, but the shot i used is not perfectly perpendicular to the side profile.
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