2020 Supra (A90) Reviews Compilation!

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I don’t think he was talking about the 911 getting first, more that the supra didn’t deserve last.
As @BrettS said not interested in Porsche.

What is interesting is the BMW M2C and where it is positioned in the final ranking.
I thought the supra would be near it but it is not to be.
I guess in today's lingo, MT are a bunch of "haters". :fear:
 

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I guess in today's lingo, MT are a bunch of "haters". :fear:
I adore MT as a magazine and a news outlet (I hate how they went for MToD though). They're pretty unbiased, which is why I enjoy them. You know what, I believe them with this result. There is either definitely something wrong with that example Supra OR the Supra hasn't been exposed to those conditions during development. They did say the Supra was back to where it was (also the hype came back for it) when they went on the track.

Since they loved it so much except for the niggles here and there, I would have expected it to hit near the top or the front of the midpack. I just don't entirely get how the M2 Competition is that much better even though in other sources the M2 Competition was worse than the Supra. Even MT themselves admitted it that in the last comparison with the M2 and the Supra, the Supra blew the M2 to shreds however that was a different area and roads that they've tested.

So like I mentioned before, either the Supra was faulty (MT thought the same but the Toyota dealer said it was fine) or the Supra needed some major work on similar roads the Supra was tested for BDC.

I'm not happy with this result, and I expected the car and MT to place the car much higher as they loved it, but VERY ODDLY (I know this is very weird), I CAN'T fault them for it to be honest. They get the car that they get and they test it in certain places (excluding the racetrack) and using those results, the Supra did poorly.

They were quite honest and weren't anti-Supra shills like the shitty whore Chris Harris. All in all, I couldn't argue with them because they had a very valid case, and they were right at the end. I was pleased with the other results too, especially with the Porsche winning. I thought the Senna took the cake but 5th seemed like a right place to put it. It's too extreme to be a genuine drivers car.

I always love MT BDC and they didn't disappoint this time either.
 

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I do wonder if it really was just a bad sample - I recently drove the MKV across the country (including through Tail of the Dragon) and have been using it as a daily; I have been pleasantly surprised how it’s been handling (in a good way) thus far. It wouldn’t be MT’s fault if Toyota supplied them a faulty car (if that’s the case), but what they experienced sounds a little off what I’ve experienced in the car that I bought. Either way, an interesting outcome, indeed.
 
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In the Supra's case, it was the latter. Driven to the limit, the Supra's rear suspension couldn't cope with 198's rough asphalt, braking-zone undulations, and midcorner bump-steer moments. Under such duress, the Supra felt nervous and unsettled—always trying to regain its footing rather than preparing for the next corner. Those rear-end oscillations made the steering twitchy and nervous. Even pro racer Randy Pobst had a "moment" on 198, which really tells you something.


The M2, by contrast, shone brightly. It easily absorbed and ignored those same grip-challenging bumps as it charged up and down the hill. Where the Supra was busy chasing its tail, the M2 was already showing its taillights. When the going got tough, the Bimmer dug in and drove like that Competition badge means something.



This is precisely the opposite of our experience during a previous comparison test, held on another one of California's mountain highways, State Route 39. Although no one would accuse SR-39 of having perfect pavement, it has none of 198's big bumps in the worst places. Rather, its small ripples of cracked pavement got the M2 Competition out of sorts but didn't faze the Supra."



"Foul play between tests? None we could find. We tested the same M2 both times. The Supras were different, but after 198, when we worried there might be something wrong with the BDC Supra, we sent it to a dealer. The dealer found no mechanical or alignment issues, which some judges were certain existed."

" With a clean bill of health, we put the Supra on the nice, smooth Laguna Seca, and suddenly the old Supra, the comparison winner, was back. We can only conclude, then, that the new Supra is particularly susceptible to large bumps in the braking zone and midcorner, and it took a road like 198 to expose this nasty shortcoming."


source: https://www.motortrend.com/news/whats-the-deal-with-toyota-supra
 

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"Foul play between tests? None we could find. We tested the same M2 both times. The Supras were different, but after 198, when we worried there might be something wrong with the BDC Supra, we sent it to a dealer. The dealer found no mechanical or alignment issues, which some judges were certain existed."

" With a clean bill of health, we put the Supra on the nice, smooth Laguna Seca, and suddenly the old Supra, the comparison winner, was back. We can only conclude, then, that the new Supra is particularly susceptible to large bumps in the braking zone and midcorner, and it took a road like 198 to expose this nasty shortcoming."


Placebo? :dunno:
 
 




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