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Turbro

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Funny part to me is, I was an admin for years and years on SF. Owned and still own my MKIV for ten years now... but!! I’m an adult and not an asshat on any forum no matter the car. I for one look forward to mkv updates and versions as I will likely get one at some point.

not all of us are bad! I promise
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Bluemkv

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Wow...the hate over there is real lol. Unpopular opinion but the BMW part doesn't bother me one bit especially since they make premium cars, ultimately if the partnership makes the car nicer and cheaper that only benefits me. I'm way more interested in how good the car is rather than who helped make it. It's not like we did a joint venture with 1990's Kia haha. The mkiv will always be a legend and I love it but on the whole many of the owners are just arrogant and think they're better than everyone else, not all of them of course.

Many of them just wanted Toyota to reproduce a 25 year old mkiv just so they can not buy it like they didn't last time...which is what necessitated the joint venture in the first place. Even that car wasn't 100% Toyota (getrag gearbox, Yamaha co-deveolped heads, etc.) I know this has been touched on but doing it alone would have cost way more and at that point we're looking at NSX or GTR price range, and the world doesn't need more six figure price tag cars, we need more that are in the corvette range.

The data shows that the new car is lighter, stiffer, better balanced, quicker, shifts faster, safer, has more technology, B58 is very tunable, and I could go on.

Them flaming the car for being co-developed is all they can cling to since the numbers prove the new car is awesome, end rant lol
Very well said, my friend
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