KahnBB6
Well-Known Member
The question is how will they get to 240hp and improve the torque and stay within the required emission and fuel consumption requirements *without* a turbo.
As the current 86 stands I was quite happy with the modest power backed by its 6-speed M/T. But I also owned a similar class of small coupe years before it with the same horsepower and torque figures from a naturally aspirated engine. It also was pretty good as it was but I always wished it also had just +50tq and +50hp increases. And it weighed 200lbs more than the 86. After ten years of ownership I had become very used to it but I was wishing every day that it had a modest and reliable turbo setup to get it to at least 200tq (at lower rpm) and at least 250hp.
The current 86 is everything that old coupe wasnāt and then some. It blows it away on every level except torque and horsepower for its roughly 2800lb curb weight. Which, again, is still pretty good if you love the 86 as the car it is more than anything else (personally I fall into that category).
If Subaru and Toyota can go to 240-250hp in a 4cyl flat FA engine without a turbo or hybrid system and still pass all regulations then more power to them. But as much of the R&D already exists for it the easier routes would be to re-purpose an existing Subaru turbo engine or if staying NA non-hybrid... just not increase horsepower and torque much at all. I donāt think the latter would do much to improve sales.
As the current 86 stands I was quite happy with the modest power backed by its 6-speed M/T. But I also owned a similar class of small coupe years before it with the same horsepower and torque figures from a naturally aspirated engine. It also was pretty good as it was but I always wished it also had just +50tq and +50hp increases. And it weighed 200lbs more than the 86. After ten years of ownership I had become very used to it but I was wishing every day that it had a modest and reliable turbo setup to get it to at least 200tq (at lower rpm) and at least 250hp.
The current 86 is everything that old coupe wasnāt and then some. It blows it away on every level except torque and horsepower for its roughly 2800lb curb weight. Which, again, is still pretty good if you love the 86 as the car it is more than anything else (personally I fall into that category).
If Subaru and Toyota can go to 240-250hp in a 4cyl flat FA engine without a turbo or hybrid system and still pass all regulations then more power to them. But as much of the R&D already exists for it the easier routes would be to re-purpose an existing Subaru turbo engine or if staying NA non-hybrid... just not increase horsepower and torque much at all. I donāt think the latter would do much to improve sales.
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