2021 Suspension Changes

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'21 owners could, you know, remove them ;)
But why would you? Your new software is already reprogrammed for new braces and suspension dampening and etc. You will throw your entire suspension geometry out of whack?
 
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Taken from Tada-San Interview thread:

Me: How much did suspension and eDif actually chang?

TT: We had to match it with the updated engine. We also made it more track oriented. ā€˜20 model Supra was made for street and track. Even the most dedicated track drivers still drive on public roads. So main focus for this setup was touge and public roads. Compared to the current model Supra, previous model Supra ride is more comfortable. We heard owner saying ā€œYou didnā€™t need to make it this comfortable.ā€ For the owners that believed that, thereā€™s more potential at the track from the Supra. They arenā€™t wrong with their feedback. Therefore, the new Supra reduced rolls and ensured the performance difference at the track was noticeable. To reinforce the front, we had to put front braces.

If you just added front braces on ā€˜20 model Supra, it wouldnā€™t work as it should. When a driver would turn-in, it would understeer. During the exit, it would oversteer. You canā€™t just stiffen up the chassis. We needed to think of both front and rear balance. With this update, we readjusted all those things.
 

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But why would you? Your new software is already reprogrammed for new braces and suspension dampening and etc. You will throw your entire suspension geometry out of whack?
I wouldn't. Not unless I'd replace it with something better. Just saying it's possible.
 

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Taken from Tada-San Interview thread:

Me: How much did suspension and eDif actually chang?

TT: We had to match it with the updated engine. We also made it more track oriented. ā€˜20 model Supra was made for street and track. Even the most dedicated track drivers still drive on public roads. So main focus for this setup was touge and public roads. Compared to the current model Supra, previous model Supra ride is more comfortable. We heard owner saying ā€œYou didnā€™t need to make it this comfortable.ā€ For the owners that believed that, thereā€™s more potential at the track from the Supra. They arenā€™t wrong with their feedback. Therefore, the new Supra reduced rolls and ensured the performance difference at the track was noticeable. To reinforce the front, we had to put front braces.

If you just added front braces on ā€˜20 model Supra, it wouldnā€™t work as it should. When a driver would turn-in, it would understeer. During the exit, it would oversteer. You canā€™t just stiffen up the chassis. We needed to think of both front and rear balance. With this update, we readjusted all those things.
That may be what was said, but so I havenā€™t seen iā€any person with added bracing reporting it. Personally it sounds like it was an easy cut to add back in later. Other parts of the interview he outright was talking about making things cheap and dealers gouging poor saps like it was no big deal.

Iā€™m happier with the softer suspension as I will rarely track it, but I will put a crazy amount of road miles on it. With that said, Iā€™m not stepping in what he is dropping with that story.
 

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I would like to hear from anyone who actually added the front braces with no other mods and has experience with it on the track versus stock.
 

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I dont mind the looks at all, does anyone happen to have the BMW part numbers for these?
 

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I dont mind the looks at all, does anyone happen to have the BMW part numbers for these?
BMW of South Atlanta prices:

51-61-7-426-097 Strut Tower Brace Left $15.65

51-61-7-426-098
Strut Tower Brace Right $15.65
 

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ordered, 65$ shipped with all hardware, no brainer
 

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ordered, 65$ shipped with all hardware, no brainer
I bought the kit that is around 300, that does the same thing and like the cross strut/support but for 65 dollars, you can't go wrong. I would do a nice paint job on it. Have fun! I do notice a little oversteer, hard into corners but that is what I am used to and like.
 
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I bought the kit that is around 300, that does the same thing and like the cross strut/support but for 65 dollars, you can't go wrong. I would do a nice paint job on it. Have fun! I do notice a little oversteer, hard into corners but that is what I am used to and like.
Thanks for the feedback! You mean oversteer exiting a turn?
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