All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut!

If that's true... RIP Supra

Yeah....I think I'm not going to hold my breath.

Starting under 40k? (probably $39,995) I'm suspecting that's got to be an economy spec with a turbo 4 cycl. If so, that would be a better deal than the current 4 cycl Supra, if Nissan could offer a manual.

I'm guessing this car should be around ~$50k, undercutting the Supra a little. If Nissan could meet the expectations with a manual, 400hp TT, RWD Japanese car, a lot of ppl will be looking at the Supra differently. I think competition is always good for buyers.

RWD 400hp Q50s and Q60s start at $55k and $57k respectively. I highly doubt the new Z will be $40k with 400hp unless it is literally a 370z body and interior with a VR30.

Things aren't looking too good for Nissan.

Nissan Looking To Axe 20,000 Jobs Worldwide, Reduce Its Annual Sales Target
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/05/n...obs-worldwide-reduce-its-annual-sales-target/

Previous reports suggested that Nissan will scale back its operations in Europe, focusing on SUV models and commercial vehicles. That also means that the automaker’s lineup in the region will become smaller, with the first models to face the axe reportedly being low volume sports cars like the 370Z and the GT-R.

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That is not good news at all.

even though they are niche sportscars the Z and GTR are the only other good models the Nissan brand sells.

I read elsewhere that they are still considering the U.S. a key market. That at least could bode well for those two models.

is anyone planning on getting both GR Supra and 400z?

If the new Z were to look like this

https://www.behance.net/gallery/95679309/Nissan-Z

gdi2290 said:

is anyone planning on getting both GR Supra and 400z?

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Have a 370 Nismo and a MKV in the garage now. The Z is hers and she’s been waiting for the new Z forever. We’ll have a deposit down the minute they’ll take one...if that ever happens

supraboi said:

Things aren't looking too good for Nissan.

Nissan Looking To Axe 20,000 Jobs Worldwide, Reduce Its Annual Sales Target
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/05/n...obs-worldwide-reduce-its-annual-sales-target/

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Will this increase the value of said cars?

Bryster said:

Will this increase the value of said cars?

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Short term, I don't think so. The 370z already has the stigma of overstaying its welcome without any significant updates nor reduction in MSRP. Long-term it just depends on how history views the car.

The GT-R also has its issue of getting pricier each year (more than what I'd say it's worth) and is artificially holding value on the used market. I was actually looking around the GT-R forums because I'm loosely interested in getting a used MY17+ GT-R if the prices come down more. The exception would be NISMO and potentially the "Track" trim levels due to their rarity, but your normal "Premium" GT-R is probably going to not increase in value unless all of a sudden the demand skyrockets. The GT-R, while popular, will likely not get the MkIV effect. The exception here would be pristine low-mileage, non-modified examples.

Any increase on those 2 cars has got to be long-term imo. Most cars have to "bottom-out" on the depreciation curve before they can start to appreciate and that also hinges on demand for the car vs. supply. I think the GT-R has the better shot at appreciating long term but there's many factors that play into that.

New Z official teaser.

Update with clearer screenshots .