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Thats a better explanation. This can all be fixed in the tune. And can be made however you want it
I almost pulled the trigger on Pure 800 and a tune but I am waiting to see what AMS is going to do as a package with the new turbo setup they are testing out.

I've heard alot of good tuners say the same thing you did, its all in the tuning. I dont want a undriveable low end monster that is no fun. Smooth entry probably with lower boost 1st gear and then slowly increase boost by gear
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I almost pulled the trigger on Pure 800 and a tune but I am waiting to see what AMS is going to do as a package with the new turbo setup they are testing out.

I've heard alot of good tuners say the same thing you did, its all in the tuning. I dont want a undriveable low end monster that is no fun. Smooth entry probably with lower boost 1st gear and then slowly increase boost by gear
Pure800 is a nice turbo. We've had good success with it.

Agree with waiting to see what AMS releases though. I think it'll be promising.
 
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Pure800 is a nice turbo. We've had good success with it.

Agree with waiting to see what AMS releases though. I think it'll be promising.
AMS is a big name when it comes to performance, look at their GTRs. I think heard someone from AMS say the A90 may give the GTRs a good fight. I can't wait to see what they come up with
 

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AMS is a big name when it comes to performance, look at their GTRs. I think heard someone from AMS say the A90 may give the GTRs a good fight. I can't wait to see what they come up with
Well, GTR has 11 years of development on it currently. We tune GTR's as well. Have put GTR's in the 7s and are one of the largest Ecutek dealers in the country.

Do I think the A90 has a good fight with the R35? It'll be many many years in my opinion.
 
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Well, GTR has 11 years of development on it currently. We tune GTR's as well. Have put GTR's in the 7s and are one of the largest Ecutek dealers in the country.

Do I think the A90 has a good fight with the R35? It'll be many many years in my opinion.
I think it will be much sooner than that but only time will tell. A90 has been only out for less than a year and many people are already in the 9s. Thats with no trans tuning, limited production on parts and minimal developments because of limited parts. One of the big performance shops will be in the 7s with this car very soon, again only my opnion
 

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I think it will be much sooner than that but only time will tell. A90 has been only out for less than a year and many people are already in the 9s. Thats with no trans tuning, limited production on parts and minimal developments because of limited parts. One of the big performance shops will be in the 7s with this car very soon, again only my opnion
I'd be amazed if it's that soon. The trans isn't going to hold it, the suspension won't either... and by the time the chassis is modified enough to run enough slick to hook it... it's going to be barely recognizable as a supra. Huge difference between AWD and RWD in that area. 1000HP is rather simple (just follow the Papadakis build)... but that's designed to break traction on purpose. Not saying never, but likely not without replacing almost the entire drivetrain. Of course, that's only my opinion as well.

Low 9's to maybe high 8's I can see as being pretty much the top - before massive changes are required. Of course, I could be wrong about that.
 

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I'd be amazed if it's that soon. The trans isn't going to hold it, the suspension won't either... and by the time the chassis is modified enough to run enough slick to hook it... it's going to be barely recognizable as a supra. Huge difference between AWD and RWD in that area. 1000HP is rather simple (just follow the Papadakis build)... but that's designed to break traction on purpose. Not saying never, but likely not without replacing almost the entire drivetrain. Of course, that's only my opinion as well.

Low 9's to maybe high 8's I can see as being pretty much the top - before massive changes are required. Of course, I could be wrong about that.
The only cars that can really crack 7's are almost unrelated from their factory counterparts. I'd assume you'd need at minimum 1500-2500hp to even get close to a 7, which I don't think is going to happen for a while. I know there is one company chasing a 7 with the A90, but I don't think the car will end up being very "factory".
 
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Without a doubt there will be alot of work required to get to those levels, but, there is no 7 second GTR that isn't massively modified either.

Also, majority of the people in this forum probably won't be chasing a 7 second Supra, it will not be a good street car, basically a car you trailer from track to track. A 9 second Supra would be tons of fun on/off track and reliability will not suffer too much.
 

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The only cars that can really crack 7's are almost unrelated from their factory counterparts. I'd assume you'd need at minimum 1500-2500hp to even get close to a 7, which I don't think is going to happen for a while. I know there is one company chasing a 7 with the A90, but I don't think the car will end up being very "factory".
Exactly... that's why I predicted "barely recognizable as a Supra".

Even at the 8 second point, you've left almost all of "streetable" on the floor of your shop - and as a result significantly limited your ability to get meaningful ROI on that pursuit. If you're the first, or you already have a stable of parts... then the marketing alone will be worth it - but it will still take time I think.

I guess depending on how little is left of the original car, 6s are definitely possible. There's a MKIV that's cracked the 5's so anything is possible - but that's a completely different car. ;)
 

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Without a doubt there will be alot of work required to get to those levels, but, there is no 7 second GTR that isn't massively modified either.

Also, majority of the people in this forum probably won't be chasing a 7 second Supra, it will not be a good street car, basically a car you trailer from track to track. A 9 second Supra would be tons of fun on/off track and reliability will not suffer too much.
I've personally been in the GTR game for about 7 years now, which Visconti tuning them for over 10 years. I remember when a good friend locally was the first into the 8s in a stock frame and it was a full street car, but was breaking frequently. Now and days, there are 100% street cars. A best friend of mine (that has a nitrous MKV as well) has a ~1600whp GTR that we drive over an hour to the track, click off 7s and drive back home. So I do have to disagree there. It's just going to take time. But as proven as the platform has already shown to be in such short period of time, i think there will be some companies certainly pursuing it.

The only cars that can really crack 7's are almost unrelated from their factory counterparts. I'd assume you'd need at minimum 1500-2500hp to even get close to a 7, which I don't think is going to happen for a while. I know there is one company chasing a 7 with the A90, but I don't think the car will end up being very "factory".
Yes. At this weight, its going to take 1500-1600whp to go 7s. Time is money and R&D takes a lot of time. What is the block limits? We've already found the first trans limits at under 800whp with slipping 6th, but managing to make it work in the 1/4 by throwing the kitchen sink at the short track since we know itll still in 6th up top with a lot of power thrown at it. But luckily we have a built trans in now and just waiting to go to the track for testing.
 

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Exactly... that's why I predicted "barely recognizable as a Supra".

Even at the 8 second point, you've left almost all of "streetable" on the floor of your shop - and as a result significantly limited your ability to get meaningful ROI on that pursuit. If you're the first, or you already have a stable of parts... then the marketing alone will be worth it - but it will still take time I think.

I guess depending on how little is left of the original car, 6s are definitely possible. There's a MKIV that's cracked the 5's so anything is possible - but that's a completely different car. ;)
Yea, at 6's or 5's you have a Pro Mod. I mean I guess you could drive it on the street, but only from the shop onto the trailer lol.
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