A90 Supra life cycle: Incremental updates? New variants coming? What's next?

supraboi said:

@A70TTR, if sales remain strong do you think Toyota could extend the Supra's life cycle and exempt it from its 2025 hybrid rule?

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I have a similar question. Let's say 2025 is here and BMW is planning to pull the plug, but sales of the Supra are still decent and Toyota may want to keep it around for another year or two until the A100 is ready. I wonder if Toyota is allowed to continue producing the Supra without the Z4?

2JZ-No-Sh*t said:

They have shown a bunch of concepts, but we still haven't seen anything to this day.

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You guys left out the coolest of them all.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-la-coupe.1727/

vb22 said:

I have a similar question. Let's say 2025 is here and BMW is planning to pull the plug, but sales of the Supra are still decent and Toyota may want to keep it around for another year or two until the A100 is ready. I wonder if Toyota is allowed to continue producing the Supra without the Z4?

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I think the issue will be that in addition to one half of the coproduction partnership shutting down at that point (BMW), Toyota still will not continue to produce it themselves with Magna-Steyer as the plant and BMW (et al) acting just as a parts supplier.

Toyota wants ALL of their vehicles regardless of how special a model is to at the very minimum have a hybrid model trim and Tada-san has stated a firm “no” to that with the A90 Supra to keep it gas-turbo only.

With the GR86 I think Subaru-Toyota can shoehorn in one of Subaru’s standard boxer-hybrid drivelines by 2025 just to have the option (not that the hardcore 86 6MT buyers would want that) in that model line and the Corolla will or already does have a hybrid option so that will allow the AWD-turbocharged-manual Corolla GR/MN to live a few years past 2025.

But if there is no plan to shoehorn a BMW hybrid engine into the A90 generation then Toyota is effectively giving themselves an ending date to its production and an excuse to not have to engineer it late into production to comply with their own mandatory hybrid trim option and/or EV mandate for ALL their models from 2025 onward.

This *may* have been one of the reasons (but only one of several simultaneously coinciding reasons) Tetsuya Tada had for aggressively pushing the Supra A90 to get its first model year released for sale in Japan by 2019 (model year 2020 for “export“ markets).

Supposedly a MT is coming soon.

https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/a33445187/toyota-supra-manual-transmission-could-be-coming/

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/56461/toyota-supra-could-finally-get-a-manual-gearbox/

https://motorillustrated.com/toyota-supra-coming-with-a-manual-gearbox/54374/

Hopefully this proves to be true! And hopefully this car will get manual options for the 2.0L and 3.0L!

Anyone know how long they plan to sell the mkv?

angrytoddler said:

Anyone know how long they plan to sell the mkv?

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Rumor was 2025 but don't quote me on it.

angrytoddler said:

Anyone know how long they plan to sell the mkv?

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I believe I read MY26 is the end of production.

ayoh said:

I believe I read MY26 is the end of production.

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I was wondering if sales remain strong if Toyota would extend production for another yr or two?

2JZ-No-Sh*t said:

I was wondering if sales remain strong if Toyota would extend production for another yr or two?

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Two issues, Toyota's 2025 hybrid goal and somehow they would need to get BMW on board.

^ I feel like that latter point is especially important. I want to say it is dependent on the z4 production. And if z sales are as bad as they’ve been it’s not looking too hot. Get em while you can

ayoh said:

^ I feel like that latter point is especially important. I want to say it is dependent on the z4 production. And if z sales are as bad as they’ve been it’s not looking too hot. Get em while you can

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Maybe a new agreement was made with BMW. The insider that posted the SOP date for the G29 has since removed it.

vb22 said:

Maybe a new agreement was made with BMW. The insider that posted the SOP date for the G29 has since removed it.

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Let's just ask the sources. @ynguldyn and @A70TTR, is the end of production still scheduled for 10/2025?

Z4 EOP is still listed as 10/25 on Bimmerpost, no news on when the LCI SOP. 7/22 was the LCI SOP but has since been removed