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It's the 1st post on this thread.

I don't think oil consumption is anything new on BMWs. I just hope Toyota takes care of everyone that is affected. https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/bmw-oil-consumption-class-action.shtml

May 20th-23rd is ZDayZ 2021 so maybe we'll finally see it with offical or at least maybe a teaser? :dunno: https://zdayz.com/

I don't think this is uniquely a BMW problem. A lot of older cars start to rattle as time passes.

I can totally see Toyota screwing up the facelift like with the 1st gen 86 and actually making it look worst than the original.

Yup, and that's probably how they can sell it for $40k lol.

Found a clearer one. It looks pretty much the same as the 370.

^That's a nice render. Could even past for an official image.

There is a "GR hot hatch" listed on Toyota's upcoming vehicles tab. https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-hot-hatch/

Thanks for that. Are they scaled to size?

Some of you need to calm down. Maybe wait for official numbers and pics before going at each other's throats. Better yet, get behind the wheel of both of them and form your opinion.

Forget the F & F sport talk for a moment. Does anyone else think Lexus as whole seems to be a gen behind the Germans. Like for ten years now their products have no longer been competitive and gaps throughout the line up. No full-size CUV, lack of electrified options, and no proper flagship coupe...

I love how this thread keeps getting bump every 6 months or so with the same rehash "info". :popcorn:

A fully loaded IS350 F Sport is like $55k and the RC-F starts at $65.9k. So maybe somewhere in the middle for the IS500, like $60k?

Pretty much confirms what everyone was expecting.

lol at those thinking this is just right around the corner. We haven't even seen mules or prototypes with a removeable top around driving around.