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Yeah exactly.

It depends. If all you care about is as much horsepower per dollar, the base Z is the better buy. If you care about things like interior quality, more equipment, etc but only have low to mid 40's to spend, the 2.0 might make more sense. If you're cross shopping any 3.0 Supra with a Z, the Supra...

Then Nissan should've put those tires on, but they were too busy saving money and cutting corners.

It's .2 over a quarter mile. Now put all those .2's together in a lap of 3,5 miles or so. That's a lot of time.

The crying on the Z forum is like a glorious reality TV show :rofl: Please God let the auto 2.0 beat the manual Z! If that happens I'm done ?

At which point the GRMN Supra will restore order. And the NISMO might be nothing more than an appearance package to begin with.

Then Nissan should've put better tires on it. ?‍♂️ stock vs stock is exactly that.

So they can look at something else than disappearing taillights in front of them ?

Imagine if the manual Supra beat the auto Z.... :rofl:

Much appreciated! Maybe they should've made that picture in panoramic mode ?

I know!! It's more fun.... because you get to enjoy the quarter mile for a longer period of time!

Which we knew would happen.

The computer stops the burnout so it doesn't get laughed at when only one wheel spins and does a burnout :rofl:

I doubt it. Monaco is too slow. Those characteristics are not repeated anywhere else on the calendar. To build a car for that track would be silly. The track is so tight, they need a special steering rack just to get around the hairpin. A regular rack doesn't turn tight enough lol. By "slow"...

Charles' Monaco curse continues. Every time he attempted to race Monaco in an F1 car, this one being Niki Lauda's, he's crashed.

Agreed. Saw a new Viper drive by yesterday and the body style with the bubble roof is very similar.

$5k difference between a Performance spec Z, or a 3.0 Premium Supra that's lighter, faster, better built, with better quality parts, and much better looks. Easy choice. And that's before any markups.

Nice im at MIDOH 4429 just south of Cleveland Ohio.