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That looks battleship grey to me, not gunmetal?

Nobody went full speed. Impossible to tell. Mercedes have played this "underdog" game for 8 years, and then then go 1-2 the first race. I hope you're right, but it won't be a surprise if Mercedes is on the front row.

HAAS will still be at the rear. All this shows is how slow the rest are going. Mercedes car is very interesting. I wonder if Ferrari's objection will gain traction seeing it's illegal to make aerodynamic mirror mounts.

Right, exactly. It's just funny people are too stupid/biased/ignorant (take your pick) to realize there's more to a car than horsepower numbers. "OMG the Z is better because it has (on paper) 18 more horsepower for $10k less!" But they forget (conveniently) the interior, brakes, tires, diff...

Just a video game. I remember building a 1400hp Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 on GT3 lol. Polyphony calling Nissan: "Can we have the Z?" "Sure, but uhhhh" "What?" "Can you drop the weight a smidge.... and maybe make it better in game than it is in real life? Help sales?" "Sure" :rofl:

Lmao. Their only selling point, and that's gone now too with the manual Supra coming.

Can't get past that front end. It's so awful. The square grill with those silly headlights, it looks like crap

True, I saw the Z at the Cleveland Auto Show yesterday, but it was locked obviously. But it's not a far stretch to say that if you want a BMW level of quality interior, you'd have to step up to Infiniti. Side note, I did sit in the new GR86 and that was surprisingly nice. Roomier than the old...

Yes you did get ripped off.

Yup, $6600 difference between a cheap plastic Nissan interior, and a nice quality BMW interior. It may cost more, but the Supra is the better bargain.

Depends on how wide you go. A 40 sidewall on a 255 is shorter than a 40 on a 305.

I'm more interested to see if the rear suspension will last a whole race with that constant up and down effect. And when it goes, it'll go at the end of a straight resulting in a very high speed crash. Like you mentioned, if that happens in Eau Rouge, that could be catastrophic. As for a fix, my...

Unlike the U.S. that just waltzes into any country it wants, to spread a little "freedumb" lol. "Don't mind us, we're just gonna hang out here looking for some WMD's that don't exist"

No lol.

I did pay MSRP. I wasn't the one saying $45k lol. Think it was $58k and change before TTL.

Exactly. And the below MSRP sales were at the height of the pandemic. I ordered my car before it all started here in the U.S. (February/March 2020) Edit: February 17th https://www.supramkv.com/threads/officially-ordered-my-a91-edition.3426/

Look at you, you edited a sentence. So smart.

Same.

Gorgeous. Love Work wheels. Had sets on my STI and RX-8.

I enjoy it just fine. But you're talking about racing on a track, something most never experience. I'm talking day to day driving. Very different.