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Think mine came to $58,205 before taxes and fees.

You can place an order. That's what I did. I went in and ordered the blue A91 in February. Nothing was guaranteed at that point, but they put it in the system they had a customer for one. Few months later I was "region approved" I guess that means only so many special editions go to a certain...

If the buyer is being flaky then that's different. OP seems ready to buy so that should be respected by the dealer. If OP says "I'll be there saturday" then hold the damn car. If he ain't there, Monday after all bets are off. Nobody should be rushed or pushed into spending $60k by some weasel...

I wouldn't have made a 2.0 Supra at all. Would've left the 3.0 as the halo flagship, then developed the 2.0 for a new MR2. that would easily sell at 43k.

Would make sense to me. The Supra 3.0 is a performance car. No point to put a lower performance transmission in there. In the 2.0 it wouldn't matter because it's slower anyway.

I'm getting a Refraction Blue A91. The wait has been killing me lol.

Europe also has a much higher rate of manual drivers (at least when I still lived there) so the chance of selling one there would be higher. Unless Toyota directly comes out and says "this is why" it's all speculation anyway.

Reading your stuff just makes me more excited to get mine. Goddamn you Covid! :banghead: Is it August already :(

Wait a few weeks. The 2021 are literally about to hit dealer lots. Leftovers will be discounted left and right. Just wait a little and you'll get a better deal, or a 2021 lol.

Great review!

First off, they're a bunch of C#%$s if they do that, and second, I would tell them to piss off and go somewhere else out of principle.

Do other things. When mine comes in I'm not touching the drivetrain. I'm doing cosmetic stuff. A catback, spacers for the wheels, or a new set, some springs, tint, maybe some footwell lighting, and that's probably gonna be it.

Good, then we've established both correlation and causation. /thread.

I never said that's why they did it. Just said that none of their top models didn't have manuals. Which is true.

Sidenote: how much better would the current STI perform if it had a DCT? I've always said it should have had an option to. The next gen STI doesn't need 400 horsepower. It needs a DCT or the ZF auto. That will do much more for it. If Subaru doesn't offer one, they're batshit crazy. If they put...

Yeah, some. That's why Chevy dropped the manual on the C8. Because only some bought it on the C7. That's why most auto makers only offer a manual on their lesser models, because only some buy it. I love a manual. I'd happily drive a manual Supra too. But I also understand with all the costs...

I don't like shitty built American cars. Had nothing to do with what transmission it offers ;)

Agreed 100% both would always be best.

Still has the same goals. I'd even say the demographic overlaps. Would be a viable alternative to a Supra.

Is that a 2 seater for $50k?