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I signed the papers and paid a deposit but they can't process the order yet AFAIK until the '20s are done being built. It something like that.

Simple. From gearhead crack to actual crack :rolleyes:

Anyone know when the '21 window opens to order?

Just drive faster than them ‍:hmm:

The $200k GT spec is getting the 7 speed transmission. They said so in the press release along with 450 hp. I'm sure there will be another spec sitting in between. We still have to see the GRMN Supra. But with it comes additional price. We're driving the M340i equivalent where the GRMN will be...

Yeah I'll be getting this in black when my A91 gets here ❤. The black tips will look so good with all the other black pieces on the car.

Does ANY of this matter on a car forum that doesn't use the 2JZ engine? Maybe this conversation should be had on the the MK4 forums? o_O

STI boxer rumble sounds awesome :dunno:

Easily done. Take a Cayman-esque body, stuff a VW GTI powertrain in it, charge 50% more than a GTI, Options are extra, because Porsche, new entry level car.

Did he try to sell you some blinker fluid too? :rolleyes:

THE best sounding cars are rotaries. Bar none. Look up the video of the Mazda 787B screaming down the mulsanne straight in Le Mans. You hear the car 30 seconds before it comes into view lol.

It's detuned in Europe for EPA reasons with those particulate filters. European Supras won't get the upgraded engine at all, so it'll be curious to see if the American '21 Supra will be detuned. I have a good dyno place nearby so once I'm past break in, I might just throw it on there for a few...

I thought the Z4 had different compression? Aren't we getting the M340i engine?

Yeah that changes things. This is the first car in my life I'm paying sticker for. I normally don't even do that. But in this case I have to or I miss the boat. But I won't pay markup, no matter how bad I want it. There's 999 more so if this doesn't pan out, there's someone selling for sticker...

I'm sure I will :D I'm glad it goes like it does. Then there's no reason for me to do mods other than for sound and cosmetic reasons. It needs lowered, because that wheel gap is horrendous, but other than that, other than wheels for a base/premium car, it really doesn't need anything. I can...

The one I drove had plenty. I turned left onto the on ramp, gave it the beans, rear end broke loose and by the time I merged on the interstate I was well over a 100 mph. And all i could think was "and mine will have 50 more horsepower??" I'm curious what the '21 will dyno at.

Unless you get a tax credit, sell privately. I only trade in if the dealer gives me private sale value.

It's a lot more than we need lol!

Forgive me. I can't keep track of MSRP from 12 years ago lol. But you get my point. They didn't raise the price, they reduced the discount. The GT-R was a steal at $80k. Especially if you looked at the exotics it beat back then. The Supra is not in that same boat. Now, they might raise it a...

Same here, I got 4 Toyota dealers within a half hour, triple that within an hour driving distance.