A90 Supra life cycle: Incremental updates? New variants coming? What's next?

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  1. halfmonkey

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    I've gone through most of the reviews and articles about the new Supra and am very excited to hear that practically all reviews are coming back positives with some negative feedback on some things such as light steering/lack of better steering feel or interior feeling small and cramped and being a little difficult to see out of. I guess it could have been worse.

    I also recall though that someone from Toyota mentioned that they want to also adopt the strategy of something similar to Porsche and BMW as well where they release incremental updates through the model years to keep interest going and sales going. It seems that if they follow the Porsche model, which has a base model, the S model, the Touring model, and the GTS model, it seems that we're in for a treat with the Supra. I guess the 4 banger is the base model even though the US isn't confirmed to be getting it so far as I've read.

    If the current configuration of the Supra is the S model, it seems that we may be getting an available tune for the Supra to bump power up and I thought that I read somewhere that could be a possibility. It seems that we don't have to look to far for these answers as I'm guessing they're just going to follow what BMW has done in the past. As BMW has done in the past with their 3.0 litter in-line 6, they usually release a tune to bump the hp up a bit but still not close enough to the M version. I'd guess they're going to do the same with the Supra and then the GRMN version will use a detuned version of the next gen m3/m4 engine. It's also possible that when this does happen, we'll see the manual and dual-clutch in the car with the m engine int he GRMN version.
     
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    just saw this new article talking about the exact topic.

    https://www.goauto.com.au/future-mo...iants-coming-every-year/2019-09-03/79834.html

     
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    i hope there will be no more powerful version coming
    this will split aftermarket focus and will only create goos sales for the company but will confuse the aftermarket focus
    i just hope that b58 Toyota setup is capable of doing easy 700hp with the more research and focus of the aftermarket
    this is why we are all subscribed to this forums, this is the joy we live
    i want these variants to be found and created by the consumers/aftermarket not the OEMs
    only then the Supra will be fun
     
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    He made the same comment to Carguide.

     
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    I hope he focuses on lightness at least
     
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    Interesting they talk about an S58 Manual. That variant will probably never happen until someone makes it themselves but god damn I would pay anything for that variant from toyota, In RSP Color.
     
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    He really wants us to evaluate the Supra's ZF8 transmission before continuing to demand a 3.0 manual version.

    The other day I got behind the wheel of a 2014 Corvette ZR1 which had the automatic option with paddle shifters. It's an amazing and effortlessly powerful version of the C7, however as much as I tried to let the automatic grow on me... while performing very decently in fully automatic and manual modes it was just... there. Manual paddle shift mode did give more control and it was a fairly quick 'box but it just didn't demand the same level of interactivity or offer the immersive fun of a traditional stick shift.

    I do wonder if many new MKV owners here have a similar impression of the ZF8 automatic... or not.

    Now the rest of this article is very exciting. The MKV is a much more upmarket car with a factory turbo and intended for upgrading by customer and the factory alike. I do think Toyota will make good on keeping it fresh much as Nissan has done for the R35 GTR year after year.

    And Tada not having every update 100% tied to BMW's go-ahead is also good to hear as it will give him more flexibility and ease to keep changes to the Supra a little more unique to Toyota's vision for their variant of the platform.

    Manual 3.0L, S58 engine and GRMN... yes please to all three.
     
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    Supra life cycle and mid-cycle refresh information

    Does anyone know what the projected life cycle for this Supra is and when the mid-cycle refresh is expected? I read somewhere that production ends in 2026, but I cannot find the source.
     
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    I'd say the current circumstances have prolonged its life cycle
     
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    I think the BMW insider said this car will follow the typical cycle for BMW Z cars. Past Zs usually have a face lift after 4 years. So yes, 2023 sounds right if the trend continues.

    SOP = Start of production
    LCI = Life Cycle Impulse

    E36, SOP 1995 LCI 1999 = 4 yrs
    E85, SOP 2002 LCI 2006 = 4 yrs
    E89, SOP 2009 LCI 2013 = 4 yrs
     
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    I hope they don't drop the ball on the facelift like with the 86. :p
     
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    what do you mean by this?
     

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