A90 Supra life cycle: Incremental updates? New variants coming? What's next?

[YungMercureal]

Two issues, Toyota's 2025 hybrid goal and somehow they would need to get BMW on board.

While I doubt it will happen, maybe Toyota will learn from this venture and decide to build an A100 in house. My concern is if they would actually put in a V6 hybrid powertrain instead of a 4 cylinder, assuming they are pulling engines from their own inventory.

Maybe they'll jump ship to Mercedes to snag one of their I6 hybrids instead, assuming that Tada-san doesn't shut that down.

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[justbake]

BMW has hybrid I6s as well if they were going to go down that path. They also have a contract with BorgWarner for electric turbos that we will see in whatever the 8 series mule we saw a couple weeks ago

Edit: Expect a 500+hp hybrid I6 in the next coming years in other BMW models

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/04/09/rumor-future-bmw-g70-7-series-to-have-two-m-performance-models/

 

[Captain_Kirk]

While I doubt it will happen, maybe Toyota will learn from this venture and decide to build an A100 in house. My concern is if they would actually put in a V6 hybrid powertrain instead of a 4 cylinder, assuming they are pulling engines from their own inventory.

Maybe they'll jump ship to Mercedes to snag one of their I6 hybrids instead, assuming that Tada-san doesn't shut that down.

That has been covered.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/news-update-and-discussion-on-next-gen-a100-supra.1840/

And here.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/the-a70ttr-dedication-thread.686/page-66#post-84687

3) Not sure honestly, but one of the BMW guys said that's likely going to be a thing. But maybe the next Supra is already being developed in-house as a hybrid

 

[YungMercureal]

Thanks for the links. Here's hoping that they can keep the costs down then. I guess I'll be waiting a few years to determine what I trade into next.

 

[gymratter]

Z4 EOP is still listed as 10/25 on Bimmerpost, no news on when the LCI SOP. 7/22 was the LCI SOP but has since been removed

its been changed to 11/22.

https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

 

[justbake]

its been changed to 11/22.

https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

Assuming that would make the A90 LCI SOP early 2023, we won't see the LCI A90 until MY2024. I personally believe that is rather late in the production cycle for such a low production vehicle.

 

[lemonslush]

if the 2023 comes with a removable t or hard top like a vett im trading my new car in so fast. If the 2023 has more HP and better traction for the same price i will also be trading it in. If it comes in neon green or purple that would be cool although my favorite color is yellow. Im not supre into the retro styling. Let a new car look like a new car, doesnt always have to look like a slightly different version than a mkiv which I was never in love with its wicked 90s aesthetic.

 

[Heavy Foot]

if the 2023 comes with a removable t or hard top like a vett im trading my new car in so fast. If the 2023 has more HP and better traction for the same price i will also be trading it in. If it comes in neon green or purple that would be cool although my favorite color is yellow. Im not supre into the retro styling. Let a new car look like a new car, doesnt always have to look like a slightly different version than a mkiv which I was never in love with its wicked 90s aesthetic.

I was never really a fan of the MKIV Supra either. I didn't like the roof, and the headlights looked wonky to me.

 

[gymratter]

Z4 EOP is still listed as 10/25 on Bimmerpost, no news on when the LCI SOP. 7/22 was the LCI SOP but has since been removed

its back up again.

G29 Z4 - 10/25

https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

 

[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

SOP for the G29 was 11/2018. With an EOP date of 10/2025 that would be 6 yrs and 11 months. The same time frame for the J29.

If the end of production date for the J29 is still accurate (3/2019-3/2026) then that would give it a total time frame of 6 yrs and 11 months.

 

[justbake]

its back up again.



https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

At the time I wrote that, the LCI date was no longer listed. It is now listed at 11/22 meaning it was delayed 4 months

 

[supraboi]

That means we should start seeing spy shots of the facelift Z4 pretty soon.

 

[BrettS]

That means we should start seeing spy shots of the facelift Z4 pretty soon.

No apparent changes to the exterior though
https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/10/26/2022-bmw-z4-facelift-spy-photos/

 

[supraboi]

No apparent changes to the exterior though
https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/10/26/2022-bmw-z4-facelift-spy-photos/

Odd that they would even cover it in camo. Unless this is more of a updated mechanical test mule prototype.

 

[vb22]

Just a thought, but maybe the redesign lights aren't ready for whatever reason. That would explain the 4 month delay as noted by justbake.

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