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Discussion in 'General Supra Topics' started by Jabba, Jan 14, 2019.
This whole comment section is filled with toxicity. I hope people come around but sheesh, change is an ugly thing to witness
lol, the internet was the best thing humans ever did... I'd argue that social media has destroyed a large part of that positive momentum, but many of those causing the issue are the younger generation that lack respect, people skills, and a desire to be upbeat vs negative.
I disagree entirely with the premise that the negative opinions are the voice of the majority. I would argue that it's the typical vocal minority that has defined the internet for quite some time now, specifically anything car related.
The New Civic Type R, NSX, R35, and more all had a ton of backlash when they were released. The 86 was also a dumpster fire; the diehard AE86 guys ate it alive and others ran with the same comments until people like Clarkson and Harris managed to somewhat turn things around. I will concede that Toyota should have had far more of a hand in the development of this car given the nameplate and what it means to people, but it is what it is and even if it was like the 86 or perhaps entirely Toyota people would still complain ("it's too heavy, not powerful enough, the mirrors are ugly, it has fake vents, it's too expensive" etc — none of that would be any different).
@Australian of The North - Seriously guy? The irony spewing from your comments and how you like to flip half truths to fit your narrative is a joke. Using words from keyboard car mechanics and MKIV FnF fanboys is a new low you've stooped, congratulations .
- Chronic MKIV mania. Please see a specialist.
I'm open to any dialogue concerning the new Supra negative or positive. The issue here is you haven't driven it, I haven't driven, none of those negative commenters haven't driven it, but yet you and them claim to know EVERYTHING about it already?
Coming up with a decent argument against a car I haven't driven is hard, so let me bash the obvious, while stoking my MKIV's tailpipes....
- Australian of the The North & the vocal minority
*I only quote you for posterity, since you have a tendency of going back and deleting your long-winded rants screeds posts...
Anyway, doesn't sound like you're much of a fan... guess you'll be moving along now. Take care.
Judging things when you have not experienced them is not a good thing.
Some people need to relax a bit, have a coffee and wait for the car to come out.
Drive it and then spew out all your hatred or better still, say the truth about how it felt.
I still watch that Chris Harris video of the GT86 he drove at the spanish circuit and supposed he negotiated [or it was scripted] for some more time than the allocated 20 mins.
His reaction was priceless!
Millennials want their cake and eat it too. This is the generation that got participation awards just for participating. Mix in Apple's philosophy of disposable hardware and you'll have a bunch of kids that don't value things nor hold on to them. It's not a phenomena that nostalgic things like NES, Gameboy, 90's Hip Hop and R&B, 90's Japanese cars even BMX bikes appeal to this gen. I grew up in the 80's when Japan had passion as well as a purpose. I still remember the original Transformers were die cast metal, had real rubber tires and had tons of detail. Now I take my 6 and 8 yr old nephews down the toy isle at Target and they are all plastic.
I keep trying to convince myself that Japan will bounce back but so far it has been disappointments. It was like Michael Bay bringing back Transformers and ALL of the cars were GMC. Are you f**king serious! Yeah, it was blockbuster hit but c'mon man. We used to street race in the 90's with Hondas and FnF's take on SoCal street racing was not even close either. Again, are you f**king serious.
Since the mid 2000's+ was a dry spell for Japanese sports cars, consumers had no choice but to accept anything for what it is just for the fact that "they brought it back" and changed some major things; R35 only an automatic, V6TT, no more Skyline name.
^tbf, the Infiniti Q Series is the Skyline in Japan
1)2JZ fans aren't the majority
2)They did learn from the MK4, which is to play by the rules or face the consequences
When people started doing this to their G35's...
I did this! Thanks Carlos!
Jesus, grammar is a thing lol. You're, have, etc.
This could not be any more incorrect.
Majority =/= correct.
Popular opinion =/= truth.
This type of thinking is toxic