BigRon
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Why this one?
Toyota recommends ACEA -C5 and API SN (+)
and what do you mean with āhard drivingā?
Like on track or just pedal to the metal?
If itās on stock whp just use the 0w20 C5 SN (+) like Toyota recommends.
You can use a cheap one like Shell Helix mumble mumble C5 SN and change it frequently or go for Ravenol, Castrol or Liqui Moly Longlife which last much longer, like 15-20k miles.
Due to my tuning I have to change oil every 7000-9000 miles depending on how hard I drive so I go for a cheap one the Shell Helix C5 SN. There is a station near my location where I can go whenever I want and they do it for 130 bucks (including the oil and the filter ofc)
For track days go for Motul, Ravenol or Castrol Edge 5W40.
Iām driving a lot on German Autobahn 180mph+ (I have a Stage 1 Custom tune with 435hp with vmax removed) with the 0w20 and 0 problems till now.
more like after changing the oil every 7000-9000 miles the oil looks very good. Like dark brown like it should be.
just donāt go crazy after cold start. Wait 15-20 miles at least if you donāt have access to oil temperature.
Toyota recommends ACEA -C5 and API SN (+)
and what do you mean with āhard drivingā?
Like on track or just pedal to the metal?
If itās on stock whp just use the 0w20 C5 SN (+) like Toyota recommends.
You can use a cheap one like Shell Helix mumble mumble C5 SN and change it frequently or go for Ravenol, Castrol or Liqui Moly Longlife which last much longer, like 15-20k miles.
Due to my tuning I have to change oil every 7000-9000 miles depending on how hard I drive so I go for a cheap one the Shell Helix C5 SN. There is a station near my location where I can go whenever I want and they do it for 130 bucks (including the oil and the filter ofc)
For track days go for Motul, Ravenol or Castrol Edge 5W40.
Iām driving a lot on German Autobahn 180mph+ (I have a Stage 1 Custom tune with 435hp with vmax removed) with the 0w20 and 0 problems till now.
more like after changing the oil every 7000-9000 miles the oil looks very good. Like dark brown like it should be.
just donāt go crazy after cold start. Wait 15-20 miles at least if you donāt have access to oil temperature.
Loco38SUP
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Here we go againā¦that rating and this manufacturer specs.Why this one?
Toyota recommends ACEA -C5 and API SN (+)
and what do you mean with āhard drivingā?
Like on track or just pedal to the metal?
If itās on stock whp just use the 0w20 C5 SN (+) like Toyota recommends.
You can use a cheap one like Shell Helix mumble mumble C5 SN and change it frequently or go for Ravenol, Castrol or Liqui Moly Longlife which last much longer, like 15-20k miles.
Due to my tuning I have to change oil every 7000-9000 miles depending on how hard I drive so I go for a cheap one the Shell Helix C5 SN. There is a station near my location where I can go whenever I want and they do it for 130 bucks (including the oil and the filter ofc)
For track days go for Motul, Ravenol or Castrol Edge 5W40.
Iām driving a lot on German Autobahn 180mph+ (I have a Stage 1 Custom tune with 435hp with vmax removed) with the 0w20 and 0 problems till now.
more like after changing the oil every 7000-9000 miles the oil looks very good. Like dark brown like it should be.
just donāt go crazy after cold start. Wait 15-20 miles at least if you donāt have access to oil temperature.
Liqui Moly has a proven track record among the B58xx community. I exclusively run this oil and have the Blackstone reports to show my engineās health is strong.
-RJM
BigRon
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I just wanted to provide a different perspective.
There is a lot of discussion around that I know but the āwhyā question doesnāt get fully answered at least for me.
the real question is: is the manufacturer recommendation based on fuel consumption and eco friendliness mainly or is it because they did the testing and have the experience?
Or a mix of both.
afaik the a3/b3 is for the B58 without OPF, while the Supra A90 has the B58 TU1 with OPF.
The US and European engines are not exactly the same but Iām not that deep into it.
based on those specs a recommendation would be
Ravenol FES SAE 0W-30.
donāt get me wrong I just havenāt found an real explanation why itās better to use the A3B3 one.
There is a lot of discussion around that I know but the āwhyā question doesnāt get fully answered at least for me.
the real question is: is the manufacturer recommendation based on fuel consumption and eco friendliness mainly or is it because they did the testing and have the experience?
Or a mix of both.
afaik the a3/b3 is for the B58 without OPF, while the Supra A90 has the B58 TU1 with OPF.
The US and European engines are not exactly the same but Iām not that deep into it.
based on those specs a recommendation would be
Ravenol FES SAE 0W-30.
donāt get me wrong I just havenāt found an real explanation why itās better to use the A3B3 one.
Supraboi7
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I just ordered this from autozone, canāt wait to pour in the hood stuff! What oil change interval do you follow?This is the way.
-RJM
FLtrackdays
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Should title each one by month. Oil thread Jan 2023
FLtrackdays
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Iām going to wait for the damn car to tell me, since we donāt have a dipstick
. I swear you used to be able to look at oil and if it was amber, you were good to go. Black and it was time to change. Now Iām wondering if it was all a dreamā¦.
FLtrackdays
Well-Known Member
Thanks for all your testing Sir. Thatās what I went with tooā¦. At least itās sitting in my garage waiting for one of the million sensors to alarmThis is the way.
-RJM
alert 
on this car and let me know itās not happy.
Supraboi7
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Back in simpler times! I want dipstick too, i wonder if it could be retrofitted. The 10k interval seems too long, Iāve been doing 5k but maybe I can stretch to 7.5k hmmmmIām going to wait for the damn car to tell me, since we donāt have a dipstick
FLtrackdays
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Iām sure thereās a million sensors for it. However I just changed my brake pads before that sensor came onā¦. But I was able to look at the dadgum things. So thereās that 
romanLegion9574
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Once every 5k miles if I'm not tracking it. Otherwise, always some fresh oil before the first track day of the season, and then once every 2 track days during the season (just before the next one so the car is on fresh oil -- I also carry some oil with me to the track just in case).
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