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  1. Administrator

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    #1 Jul 24, 2016
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    Autoblog has just published a report citing more rumors predicting a possible Toyota developed twin-turbo V6 for the all new Toyota Supra. For those of us at SupraMKV, this would be much preferable to sharing an engine with the MKV Supra's chassis sibling, the BMW Z5.

    The latest rumor claims that the new Supra will be powered by a twin-turbocharged V6 that will also power the new Lexus GS and LS. Japanese automotive publication Mag-X first reported on this engine. It was then picked up by YouWheel and Car Keys. Mag-X cites Toyota insiders and even gives an engine code, 943F. This engine allegedly will make more than 400 horsepower and more than 300 lb-ft of torque.

    Via: http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/22/toyota-supra-lexus-turbo-v6-rumor/
     
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    And just yesterday I saw another report claiming hybrid power plant. Maybe what these recent differing reports is shaping up to be two different models with two different engine options, as we've seen in previous rumors -- a gasoline turbo V6 model and a hybrid model.
     
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    That's what I am hoping. I would be surprised to see both a gas and hybrid model since I think the Supra is going to be very small volume (at least at first) especially if the pricing is 70 grand and above.
     
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    Agree. Even in the sales heyday of the last gen Supra, it didn't sell in high enough volumes that multiple power plants was justified.
     
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    That article title is clickbait. BMW engines may not be Toyota reliable (and that's why I hope the new Supra gets a Toyota engine) but they're not as bad as the article makes them out to be. Also, engines such as BMW's that push the performance envelope are of course more likely to have issues.

    But yea I totally hope for a Toyota engine too! Turbo V6 would be lovely.
     
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    A twin-turbo V-6 would fit within Toyota's TNGA (Toyota New Global Architecture) platform/powertrain philosophies. The 2GR-FKS 3.5L engine which is now the TNGA V-6 in Lexus and Toyota Models has exhaust ports that are set to accept turbos. The engine is supposedly capable enough to fit the needs of a performance vehicle but still stave off CAFE concerns. I recognize that a V-6 is not in fashion of the predecessor Supras, but the TNGA philosophy and its attending cost savings must be acknowledged and considered.
     
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    ^ I hope you're right. I know some people really want an inline 6 and so do I. But I think an engine made with Toyota DNA (heritage) for a car like this is worthy more and the name Supra is fitting no matter V or inline. Instead of using another brands heart/soul and using a legendary name plate for sales.

    Don't mess this up Toyota!!!
     
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    Given the small size if the new "Supra", I think this car will replace the GT86, and will have several engines, maybe 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder, like Porsche 718 has two engines. I think the price range will start quite low, and get more expensive with more power. This time, if the new Supra does not sell, it will be 100% that sports car are bought for badges only, and not for what they are. Luxury SUVs are now a stronger status symbol than sports cars, because driving a capable sports car requires skills. The new Supra will basically be the car all (internet) BMW fans have asked for many years? But will they buy a BMW with Toyota badge? Toyota is still the most valuable car company.
     
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    but Tada san said there will be 3 sports car in the Toyota line up.

    also the old Supra wasn't that much larger than the 86.
     
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    http://carislife.hatenablog.com/entry/2016/07/13/225643



    Google translated: Plan specs and price

    • Power train (two)BMW made in-line four-cylinder 2L turbo
      BMW made of straight-six-cylinder 3L turbo + hybrid
      (adopt a condenser that can instantaneously take out a high-power)
    • Maximum output: 2L turbo 200ps or 255ps, 3L hybrid 340ps
    • Mission: 8-speed AT or 6-speed MT
    • Vehicle weight: 1500kg
    • Drive: FR or 4WD
    • Body type: coupe (BMW Z5 is open)
    • By also be employed carbon in the body material, lightweight
    • Although share BMW as "Z5" platform, etc., by changing the body size and wheelbase, differentiate the target
    • Also studied Lexus models to divert a similar system
    • Price: 2L turbo 4 million yen to 5,000,000 yen, 3L hybrid 8 million yen
     
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    I'm not sure how to react to this fusion of BMW and Toyota. It kind of blurs the car's image to me. When I had an E36 M3 I embraced the BMW heritage that it had. Not sure how I feel about this blend.
     
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    5 million yen = $49,721.60
    8 million yen = $79,554.50

    Not sure how a Toyota 4cyl. Can cost that much. I'm not worried about how this car will look. The LC500 is a perfect example of what Calty designed and engineers were able to produce.

    I'm afraid of what will be underneath and at those price points it's even more scary if any is true.
     
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    Lexus RC-F V8 would be nice. That would be the Z4 M Coupe with S65 that BMW never built.
     
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    if it is going to be a TT V6; anyone else think they will just slap turbos on the 3.5 2GR-FSE and call it a day.
     

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