News Update and Discussion on Next-gen A100 Supra

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@A70TTR, interesting piece posted on Supraforums today. A preview of whats to come on the next Supra?

BTW, I saw a video today that indicates the 2022 (IIRC) Lexus LX 570 and Toyota Land Cruiser will have the 3.5L TT V6, along with hybrid power. Mind you, without hybridization, the motor already makes 415 hp and 442 lb-ft in the LS 500. The next Tundra is also suppose to get a version of this set-up. The speaker in the video conservatively estimated 500 hp and 500 lb-ft, with the Land Cruiser/LX combo and the Tundra all slated to be significantly lighter than their current iterations (the Tundra is reported to get mid-30 MPG along with more power and lighter weight).


I mention all this because of Boost Wang's earlier post about this motor in a modified LC 500 chassis. Now, this motor in the LS 500 is next level in every respect, so I find it amazing Toyota did not use the MKV Supra as another company vehicle to amortize the cost of this motor across the upper end of its model ranges. This is what it did with the 2JZ-GTE in the Supra, Aristo and the Chaser, I believe. Rumors say there will be an all-Toyota A100 Supra (there's already a thread on this) so maybe there's still hope though I, personally, don't have any.



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I want to respond to this, but it's too early to scratch more than the surface. I'm actually a little bit concerned by the thread alone lol, but it's still vague enough to be okay for now. More than details, it's about not stepping on toes as everything is about politics.

It's also still very early on in general, but I'll add more as time goes on.
 
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I want to respond to this, but it's too early to scratch more than the surface. I'm actually a little bit concerned by the thread alone lol, but it's still vague enough to be okay for now. More than details, it's about not stepping on toes as everything is about politics.

It's also still very early on in general, but I'll add more as time goes on.
I see. Well thanks for what you have shared so far and can't wait to read the updates. Is it too early to put together a wish list so you can forward them to the higher ups?

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^^ I’m fine with learning with learning A100 details in whatever time is the right time.

I don’t think anyone here wants to upset delicate politics in any way. We’re just enthusiasts and fans and cannot help but be as passionate as we are about what’s coming.

Personally I am interested in what the future A100 will shape up to be and sure, I think we all know it will have to be a hybrid of *some* kind whenever it’s released down the road. I have my own vague suspicions but I’m content with that much for now.

However at the same time I am very much interested in the A90 that is here right now! Especially in terms of the expanded hardware, additional trim levels and aftermarket support for it that I fully expect to grow in each such area respectively while it is actively in production.

So.... I’m just happy to be here and learn about the A90 and, on the side and in the distance, sure of course also the possibilities for an A100 : )

That and A100 seems to be a given now so that alone makes me happy for the long term future of the Supra!
 
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Won’t the GR86 be a hybrid by 2025 as well since Toyota plans for all models having a hybrid trim by 2025? I think that’s a bigger deal than the A90/A100 going electric
 

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Won’t the GR86 be a hybrid by 2025 as well since Toyota plans for all models having a hybrid trim by 2025? I think that’s a bigger deal than the A90/A100 going electric
Would this mean the GR86 will eventually become a 48V mild hybrid... which is still by its nature capable of using a conventional 6-speed manual transmission? Or might it become a full hybrid by then? Or would 2800lbs be impossible in such a configuration?

I hope it remains non-hybrid or only mild hybrid with the 6-speed manual for the 2nd gen at least.

This also makes me wonder about the future of the GRMN Corolla and Yaris GRMN with the AWD, manual transmission and 1.6L non-hybrid turbo three come 2025. It hasn’t even come out yet.
 

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everything hybrid by 2025 doesn't necessarily mean there won't be legacy models carrying through like say the Corolla GRMN or GR Yaris; it just means newly developed platforms and models will be designed ground up as hybrid (like the new Sienna) or that there will at minimum be an option for hybrid in an existing platform until it is replaced.
 

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Maybe, but the 2025 statement is/was strictly for Toyota vehicles versus shared projects as I understand it.
Since the Supra is shared too, and from the subtle hints I'm guessing the A100 will be shared with Mazda, there's no certainty then that the Supra will be hybrid.
I wonder what Mazda's version will be. The Vision we were thinking be the next rotary car?

If we're putting in requests, I'd like a targa roof . If possible in the 2023 refresh already ;)
 

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Rumor has it the next RX is hybrid, but that doesn't necessarily mean Mazda is going to be the answer :)


Speaking of which, what would everyone here prefer? a V6 or a legacy design like an aluminum block inline 6? Is the latter design more important than the advantages presented by the former? Hypothetically speaking, let's say they make around the same power and have about the same head room.
 

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Isn’t the GR Yaris getting a hybrid too though? Something something WRC 2022 something something
 

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Isn’t the GR Yaris getting a hybrid too though? Something something WRC 2022 something something
Very possible, but I haven't heard anything about it. I've been stuck working from home for a while now, so kind of sucks as far as finding out new details on stuff, especially since right before that I was crazy busy with three simultaneous projects.
 

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Rumor has it the next RX is hybrid, but that doesn't necessarily mean Mazda is going to be the answer :)


Speaking of which, what would everyone here prefer? a V6 or a legacy design like an aluminum block inline 6? Is the latter design more important than the advantages presented by the former? Hypothetically speaking, let's say they make around the same power and have about the same head room.
I6 of course, but if that means BMW involvement then I'll gladly take the V6.
 
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