"Second generation" Toyota 86 Thread

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  1. Bryster

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    Won't it have the FA24?
     
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    The rumour last year was indeed that if a 2nd gen got greenlit, they might use the FA24 in NA form. I think that would be the way to go. A hybrid setup with a smaller downsized turbo engine just sounds like unneccessary extra complexity, weight, and cost, completely undermining the spirit of the 86 as an old school, affordable, and back to basics car.

    Save the tricky and expensive hybrid tech for the Supra, or new MR2.
     
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    Was the GT87 in development prior to the Supra?
     
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    it would actually surprise me if they put the fa24 in it and the reason is emissions of course.

    Now for the 2nd gen there are strong indications for an electric motor, first there was a hybrid 86 concept , second toyota said that the supra will be their last petrol only sports car. So even if the image of the 86 today is simple affordbale etc , my guess is that for the 2nd gen it will go upmarket just a little bit.
     
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    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/second-generation-toyota-gt86-greenlighted-bosses

     
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    I hate to be pessimistic, but the snippets of quotes from the Toyota exec in that article do not confirm a next gen has been officially greenlit. If you ignore the headline and Autocar’s own interpretation of events, and focus on the actual quotes they provided, the things he says could simply imply that Toyota will keep the current gen 86 on sale for a few more years, to sit alongside the new Supra, since they play in different market segments. I saw no quote where he specifically confirmed a mkII has been greenlit and is definite.

    Unfortunately, online sites do this all the time, they catch a couple of vague quotes from an exec at a motor show or something, then they interpret those few words to mean much more than they actually do, then they write an article full of unsubstantiated assertions based on those quotes, then other sites pick it up and run the same story. Similar things have happened over the years regarding a turbo 86/BRZ STi, a new MR2, an impending 400Z etc, none of which are any closer to reality.
     
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    https://www.motor1.com/news/345497/next-86-brz-toyota-platform/

     
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    ^Does that mean we're finally going to see something like the S-FR? :D

     
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    Take anything written about upcoming cars published by motoring.com.au with a huge pinch of salt. Their track record on reliable reporting, particularly about new sportscars, is hilariously awful. They also predicted an 86 convertible, a turbo version, and even an 86 sedan, in prior years. None of those based on reliable evidence.
     
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    They did make a concept, but it was never green-lighted. :(

     
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    https://bestcarweb.jp/news/74066

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    Because, they've taken all the info from our sister site FT86Club. It's all from member's wishing list and nothing solid info. From there, they just made up BS article to get some clicks. It was pretty funny when 90% of those automotive site making an article bout some "new" info of 86... but reality is, it's all just forum posts. lol

    But with that said, here are 2 things I'll add to the rumors.
    1. There will be next gen 86/BRZ. Engine is questionable... which means it could be 1.5L boxer engine or FA24.
    2. This rumor is nothing to do with 86/BRZ, but my buddy of mine in Japan have heard a rumor of Toyota testing out some kind of MR car early this year and just recently a lot of Japanese automotive site have rumoring Toyota is making next MR2.

    Take those 2 rumors as grain of rice.
     
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    the upcoming 1.8 turbo boxer would be a good fit , i am guessing they will want to reduce emissions right?
     
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    I can’t say... well technically, idk. All I know is engine is the biggest question for next gen 86 atm. There’s a rumor of Toyota engine for next gen & that’s possible option. Same goes w hybrid option.
     

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