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Discussion in 'General Supra Topics' started by Supra93, Jan 15, 2019.
If they did it on road tyres too, a 7:40 ring time for $49k is bargain
Tada is definitely hiding something
Tada's got to be talking about the lighter mules they were testing. If somehow the production Supra pulls off a ~7:50, I'll be surprised.
I could see the headline now:
Okay something is going on and I like it. The fact that he is so assured that it will make 7:50 or even 7:40 with the speed limiter on is fucking scary. There is also how one will look stupid if they make a bold claim like that and it ends up backfiring, I'm sure he understands that, and the fact that he's saying this makes me believe him that it's for real.
I also feel like in the future Toyota will work their Japanese magic and do BMW dirty big time. If I were BMW I wouldn't be so keen to partner up unless there was an contract or some sort of immunity agreement that will not allow Toyota to do as well as BMW. I'm getting the vibe that if that's even the case, Toyota will work and read between the lines and fuck BMW up. I have mentioned this many times and will say it again. I think we will have our own inline-six again.
I can also feel the toxicity between the two parties even though they both did good for each other. BMW gave hardware while Toyota traded some other things that we don't know about (I'm pretty sure chassis tuning is all Toyota because I remember nobody liked BMW steering until the M2, but other than that the Z4 was the first car that they liked the steering, even then every publication said they liked the Toyota steering more). I do think this will be a rivalry with the two cars. And in the future the Z4 will be only as an alternative to people who want a MkV or any Supra in general. Similar to how some other cars were to the older Supra's. Meanwhile the Supra will be hella popular. I'm feeling that BMW is really salty about the amount of love that the Supra is getting and they're pissed. Tada just shut them up right now.
Somebody (a moderator) told me via pm that I should be hopeful because once official reviews come out people's mindset will change. Any real person with half a brain would understand that it is great as it is.
I want the big dog Supra though. If that's too far off, I want me a launch edition.
Just. Please. Release. A. Stick.
He already implanted that speculation about cutting the speed limiter, boi's a marketing genius
I don't think Tada-san is hiding anything, I just think he has confidence in the product.
Hopefully Toyota will do a legitimate 'Ring run. By legit I mean bone stock down to the tires. I'm tired of seeing manufacturers make runs in purportedly stock cars. "Oh the cage is for safety and it in no way helps with chassis rigidity. Why's the interior gutted? That's just to make up for the weight of the cage and data-logging equipment. The tires? Yes they're street legal... somewhere in the world."
He seems pretty confident in the product! SportAuto will probably test it before Toyota does, and it won`t do 7:40 in showroom stock form.
It did a 7:38 as a mule, so he's not guessing lol
They don't say things like that as an unknown; they're being disingenous every time.
that's impressive - was it the one that competed at VLN or an earlier mule on street Michelins?
Mule on Michelins afaik; I wouldn't be surprised if that VLN car was even faster on slicks, but I have no idea.
So a 7:38 puts the Supra at the same level as a Giulia Quadrifolgio, a brand new F90 M5, a LFA, the R35, the Veyron, etc.
Egh, that's like a stripped car basically, so a 7:40 sounds about right for production, and as said I guarantee he's already timed it there or within stones throw away.
7:40 would be a good spot to be in for a $50-60K car. Then Toyota could pretty much say "Look, just about anything quicker costs more. Anything cheaper is slower."
Sounds about right. Maybe I will need some R888's and a tune to get that 7:38