they're definitely using BC stats
Finally a translation thanks to bc.
bc said:Vertically written Japanese makes my brain melt. A lot of the content is a repeat of what he said in the ILOVECARS!TV interview before. Mystery trip to Germany, initial trouble, etc.
Here is what he has to say regarding MT at the end of page 16:
Option Daijirō Inada: I've read that it will be available only with an automatic transmission.
Supra CE Tetsuya Tada: To be honest, there are no performance merits to a manual transmission (when compared to the Sports 8AT). As of now. It's a shame. On the other hand, the technical level and progress of torque converter type sports automatic transmissions is impressive. The shift speeds are no different than a DCT. More importantly, the latest generation of sports AT are light.
That said, I totally understand the authentic experience associated with operating a manual transmission.
Option Daijirō Inada: So it will be AT only, then?
Supra CE Tetsuya Tada: My answer will probably be treated as some form of cop-out or cheap excuse, but the Supra puts out a serious amount of torque. More than double that of the 86. When it comes to a manual transmission, it must be able to cope with the amount of torque it's applicable engine produces and is capable of producing. It torque goes up, the manual transmission must be able to handle it accordingly with the correct number of plates, etc.
Naturally, this strengthening will have a progressively negative effect on shift feel. Technically. In the near future, manual transmissions will be smaller and focused on sublime shift feel. Take for example, the Honda Beat. It's a masterpiece.
However, when you need to handle 500-600 NM of torque, it's a different world. Porsche has made strides in this realm, but they are selling high-end sports cars for nearly 200k USD each.
Let's say we develop a MT for Supra. Now, can we convince our customers to pay more for it? I know that when I provide this type of answer in an interview, it will result in a spate of articles declaring "THE MANUAL TRANSMISSION SUPRA IS DEAD!" (LOL).
But we are always considering the possibility of the manual transmission Supra, and working with our sales divisions in determining if it is viable or not.
650Tq Z06 gets a manual.. the new GT3s come in manual, all standard variants of 991 come in manual. Heck even the new Aston comes in manual. Wtf is Toyota smoking.more than double the 86's torque requires a torque converter? Let's be clear here, torque at the wheels in the 86 barely hits 120...I much prefer to the equivalent to the torque in F cars comparison..
Meanwhile 460 lb ft C7 gets a 7 speed stick :s
Lol. Not going to happen. They are setting the stage for auto only Supra and making stupid excusesJust putting this out there.
TOYOTA.
I would pay more for a manual transmission. Similar to how Porsche charges its customers for an automatic transmission.
I would be willing to pay a few grand more for a Manual, now lets make it happen and make it a success,
You're looking at it wrong, he's praising the capabilities of a torque convertermore than double the 86's torque requires a torque converter? Let's be clear here, torque at the wheels in the 86 barely hits 120...I much prefer to the equivalent to the torque in F cars comparison..
Meanwhile 460 lb ft C7 gets a 7 speed stick :s
Just stop spilner, it will never translate for you. You need to start driving first -.-You're looking at it wrong, he's praising the capabilities of a torque converter
Auto may be practical, but it won't beat the fun you get from shifting a ManualJust stop spilner, it will never translate for you. You need to start driving first -.-
Literally every single MT enthusiast who hasn't given up on them will never care how good automatics are. Plus this ain't news, for quite some time now torque converters have been able to handle over 500 lb ft of torque and shifting speeds have surpassed the average manual driver..care cup still empty..
Reading this I don't automatically assume it will necessarily happen but it does suggest to me that they have not actually shut the door on offering a manual. The car won't be released to go on sale for another year but even if, hypothetically, they already reversed their original decision and decided to offer one it wouldn't be available at launch anyway.Finally a translation thanks to bc:
"But we are always considering the possibility of the manual transmission Supra, and working with our sales divisions in determining if it is viable or not."