Toyota teases five sports car line up? Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, GR 86 MK3 and GR GT3

[KahnBB6]

There are definitely 2 different cars in that video. One is almost definitely a b58 so yeah probably whatever final edition the US gets. Not sure about the other though. It may be a gr86 special edition based on the sound.

At first I was sure I was hearing a four cylinder but kept replaying it and definitely heard the I-6 engine note so I am also of the mind that at least one announcement will be for a final edition Supra MKV with the B58 (possibly modified in a GRMN spec with my fingers crossed??).

Toyota wants to collaborate with Mazda using their inline-six but it's far too early for that to be announced.

I would not be surprised if we also get an official production reveal of the upcoming G20E 2.0L 4cyl turbo for the Celica, MR2, Lexus coupe, Supra MKVI and who knows what else.

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[Tsuki8]

Welp Toyota USA deleted all the posts.
We'll find out in a few hours...

 

[puzzled]

That they canned the i6 and focus on 4 banger hybrid instead (at best)?
Toyota needs to focus on survival now... Mazda even more. No time to be playing games with sports cars that will only sell to a small niche market.

 

[puzzled]

side note: this site is so sluggish and slow like a Honda these days..

 

[KahnBB6]

That they canned the i6 and focus on 4 banger hybrid instead (at best)?
Toyota needs to focus on survival now... Mazda even more. No time to be playing games with sports cars that will only sell to a small niche market.

Toyota's partnership with BMW and Magna-Steyr is ending which will can their use of the B58C and B58D engines in new model year Supras soon... but does that necessarily mean Toyota has canned the use of *any* inline six?

Remember when A70TTR first told us that Toyota's internal mandate was to have hybrid drivetrains either standard or at least optional on all models (except outgoing legacy models) for model year 2026?

Well... that high powered G20E turbo four cylinder hybrid drivetrain is probably being developed to allow the Supra to meet that company mandate and allow for a powerful version in the 2.0L engine size which enjoys better taxation breaks in Japan and other parts of the world.

This is likely a *trim level* of the Supra MKVI.

They've been interested in Mazda's inline six for some time now however:

https://japanesenostalgiccar.com/mazda-toyota-inline-six-sports-car/

This was brought up again just last month too.

Toyota has their own in-house platform that will be used by the next Supra and Lexus coupe (A70TTR also hinted at this a long while back). It's possible that that Mazda might get to also use this platform for their own car in exchange for Toyota getting to use their I-6 engine.

With the U.S. tariffs that just went into effect who knows what will ultimately happen with any sportscars the world over but prior to that the above seems to have been the direction Toyota has been going in with the next Supra.

Using the Mazda inline six with significant modifications would make a lot of sense too and would keep the Supra's design and manufacturing within Japan again.

 

[Supra93]

On a slightly different note.

https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-gazoo-racing-reveals-new-gr-corolla-development-vehicle/

 

[Zboy]

Probably a preview of the GRMN Corolla.

 

[Matador]

Probably a preview of the GRMN Corolla.

Or the "Morizo spec" of an updated GR Corolla? The front bumper looks like the updated Yaris bumper.

 

[Matador]

I highly doubt the Supra MKVI is going to cost $100k+ USD. Maybe an eventual GRMN limited edition will cost that much for all we know but the rest of the model line shouldn't go there.

*IF* Toyota produced the Celica, MR2 **and** A supra, I prmise you the Supra will scratch $100k, especially if it's done in house. They knew what they were ding with the BMW alliance.

Note that the "Mk 5 Final edition" will be $155k.

 

[puzzled]

Yeah, and all this hype going around is Toyota trying to offset the negative press of them losing huge market share in China... losing the BEV race, losing the autonomous race. Where the fak is RapidUs already man.

Toyota working on solid state batteries that has an ever push-out release date since 2014.. now they got smart and let their Chinese partner build their EV's for their market at $15K retail! WTF, and re-badge. That's how you do it.. just slap a Toyota badge on a perfect cheap sports car and you got the A90 at fraction of the cost. Thank you Tada-san you did the A90 and AE86 properly. No sense reinventing the wheel.

 

[KahnBB6]

*IF* Toyota produced the Celica, MR2 **and** A supra, I prmise you the Supra will scratch $100k, especially if it's done in house. They knew what they were ding with the BMW alliance.

Note that the "Mk 5 Final edition" will be $155k.

They are producing a new Celica (they've said this), seem to be toying with something or other that will be mid-engine judging by the GR Yaris mid engine R&D mule car, and are already moving forward with a next-gen Supra... which is not going to be a standalone vehicle platform or have a standalone engine.

We can usually see some hints of *what* they have in the pipeline but exact pricing is not usually easily gauged from that. A new Supra starting at $100k USD will not sell nearly as well as one priced to start well below that. Do you have some sure info on MKVI pricing that we do not?

Further, where did you hear that the MKV Final Ed will be priced at $155k? There is extremely little that is substantially different mechanically from the current model year MKV 3.0 Premiums apart from extremely minute brake rotor size and minor suspension differences with exactly the same horsepower as before. I don't recall seeing any pricing announced with the official press release.

The Toyota GR GT3 / Lexus LFR on the other hand... that one has a bespoke vehicle platform with a bespoke engine and I can absolutely see it easily costing well into six figures. That's their money no object halo model. I can't imagine the comparatively much higher volume and more attainable Supra MKVI's starting price coming anywhere near whatever the GT3/LFR may cost while still being successful in sales... but we'll see.

 

[MisterSkiz]

I honestly hope it starts at 100k+ - really keeps a certain demographic from buying and destroying them right off the bat.

 

[PerformanceSound]

There won't be a $100k Supra....at least not in the near future.

The goal is lightweight, rigid, and decent power. Hybrid system will put a dent on the weight.

BTW, Toyota is fully aware that "Supra" is synonymous with "Inline six".....that is their main selling point for the brand.

 

[swrdply400mrelay]

There won't be a $100k Supra....at least not in the near future.

The goal is lightweight, rigid, and decent power. Hybrid system will put a dent on the weight.

BTW, Toyota is fully aware that "Supra" is synonymous with "Inline six".....that is their main selling point for the brand.

What r your thoughts on a Mazda I6 vs 2 x GRC engines?

 

[PerformanceSound]

What r your thoughts on a Mazda I6 vs 2 x GRC engines?

All I know is that this is the PERFECT economical time to produce a sports car....in-house!

GM has already started on the C9....designs are in progress in GM UK Division on the C9.

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