And everyone in this forum hates the Z as you can tell by the poll. Can't you see it goes both ways. People love the car they purchased and they hate the competition.Every single post on their forums hates on the Supra. Somehow they talk about the Supra more than the z
Do not hate it. Not as attractive as the 370Z I owned and enjoyed. Styling is bland. Much of the car is a carryover done for cost, understandable. The styling is a mix to capture the heritage and for me its a fail. Its an Audi A7 with 2 doors. The front is an E, electric car fail. The motor is a V6 with 2 Turbo's thats nice and not really notable overall. They built a sportscar on the cheap as its low volume - same for the Supra. It comes with a manual and its got buzz right now. It will be heavier than the 370 and probably the Supra from what is NOT being discussed.And everyone in this forum hates the Z as you can tell by the poll. Can't you see it goes both ways. People love the car they purchased and they hate the competition.
Agreed and based on the Frontier refresh I would suspect soI went back and watched the Savagegeese review of the 2019 370 Nismo. They didn’t like the manual gearbox, didn’t like the steering feel and feedback, were concerned about the brakes and cooling at the track, and felt the Mustang and Camaro were far superior.
This is my concern with the new Z. Did Nissan mail this thing in with mostly the same recycled parts and expect a different outcome ? Their 370 Nismo was $45K with a manual. I’m guessing a loaded new Z Nismo optioned car will be pushing close to or over $50K..
Corporate attitude is to do just that. Make new, hype image with retro-feel and looks, recycle parts into 'new' platform. So overall a 370Z that looks worse to me. This is the way of the Corporate Auto Makers. Partnerships, parts bin re-use etc. Its keeps sportscars being built in an era of oversized trucks and boxes that look like crap and are severely under utilized to put it mildly.Agreed and based on the Frontier refresh I would suspect so
What not enough people are talking about though is that it’s running a *completely open deck block*. Anyone who wants to make more than stockish power levels on that platform is going to be in for a rude awakening. I’d expect it to start cracking sleeves and chewing through head gaskets at even tuned stock turbo power levels.
Lol, imagine thinking that showing a couple dyno plots of cars at tuned stock turbo power levels discounts literally anything I said. I never said they couldn’t make more power, just that it won’t last. There’s a reason open deck blocks are reserved for cheap NA engines.LOL
Meanwhile in the real world...