SupraBC
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Side looks ok, not a fan of the rear but that grill is hideous.What do yall think?
Still undecided which grill design is worse, this or the new M4.
The interior looks nice.
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Side looks ok, not a fan of the rear but that grill is hideous.What do yall think?
Some people are wanting to do the same for the Zupra.So basically it's all "craptastic" - but it's a Z, it comes in a 6-speed manual, and I've got history with Nissan that's mostly favorable - so I'll definitely have one in the garage at some point.
Probably after someone has already eaten the depreciation on it and decided a 2-seater wasn't for them.
Agree, especially if it will just have a small price increase as suggested by some.The Z is gonna be a hit. It has alot going for it...at least on “unofficial” paper. Turbo’s, displacement, manual transmission, and (if what I read is true) a longer wheel base. Even if you hate Nissan’s, how can you hate what Nissan is offering with the upcoming Z? Now, being a manual and under $40k....I still think the MKV Supra will be faster and better quality overall (stock vs stock).
A lot of people view the 981/982 as more of a refresh rather than a totally new redesign. I think it was just a marketing thing. With that said I will give them a pass because the 981 came out in 2012. The 370z has been around since 2009.i think its a double standard when it comes to old platforms. everyone whines about how the upcoming Z35 is based on the Z34, but not a word about how the 981 and 982 are pretty much the same car with different front and rear treatment and the lose of the flat-6 for a crappy sounding flat-4.
It would be funny if the Z4 actually had better resale given its low N.A. production numbers.Some people are wanting to do the same for the Zupra.
It's funny because after having my hands full of Toyotas... with almost nothing but problems - I've found my Bimmeryota to be a refreshing change. Don't get me wrong, my 4Runner is bulletproof and never needs anything. But the last 4 Lexus models (including the new one) are full of flaws and requiring numerous trips to the dealership for repairs and/or recalls.Idk, if it was your typical Toyota product I would say yes, but after having a hand full of both BMWs and Nissans the first thought that came to mind regarding quality is "pick your poison".
I think so as well... it's funny someone mentioned a Mustang in regards to the rear... because the front of it reminds me an awful lot of this:Side looks ok, not a fan of the rear but that grill is hideous.
Still undecided which grill design is worse, this or the new M4.
I've heard a lot of things in my life but that is definitely a first. lmaoIt's funny because after having my hands full of Toyotas... with almost nothing but problems
You're right. Toyota did have their dark period. I'm going to use their best selling cars for example which I happened owned and I'm sure many on here have too. Both the XV40 Camry (2006–2011) and XU30 RX (2003–2007) were subpar when it came to quality. I think their predecessors were much better cars. My 05 Camry and 99 RX300 were great cars with no real issues. They had 200k and 250k on the clock before "upgrading". However, the issues I experienced (mainly dash cracking and fluid leaks) were still nothing major and much cheaper to repair compared to the German (electrical & computer modules) and French/Japanese (CVTs) cars I had later.It's funny because after having my hands full of Toyotas... with almost nothing but problems - I've found my Bimmeryota to be a refreshing change. Don't get me wrong, my 4Runner is bulletproof and never needs anything. But the last 4 Lexus models (including the new one) are full of flaws and requiring numerous trips to the dealership for repairs and/or recalls.
Although my 350Z definitely had it's share as well (like new engine under warranty after fighting for almost a year with corporate problems)... my G37 had only 1 recall and 70K trouble-free miles. So hard to say for sure. Toyota of 2020 is a very far cry from Toyota of 2000 (or earlier) - IMO at least.
I definitely no longer consider reliability to be a given if the badge has a T or an L on it (unless it's from before ~2010).
True... and compared to the spontaneous combustion recently plaguing some of the Korean models - I'll take fuel pumps, airbags, headlights, window motors, etc. failing any day!No car or car company is going to be 100% prefect. Every carmaker will still product a lemon here and there, yes even Toyota and Lexus are not immune to this. However, they still rank top 5 top on pretty much every quality & dependability test/survey.
Going in for my fuel pumps recall on the 2020 RX this week... had it in shop for 10 days (4X) so far in 3500 miles of use. Between the 2008 IS350, 2015 RX, 2016 RC-F, and 2020 RX - I've had over 12 weeks of "loaner driving" in the past 10 years.I've heard a lot of things in my life but that is definitely a first. lmao
I have the same question. Anyone driven a Cayman to compare? I could get a CPO Cayman for about the same price as a new Supra.Curious about cayman vs supra overall. How much am I missing out not owning a cayman?