Why I'm NOT Hyped About The New Toyota Supra

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Its funny how they are trying to force the government to open more hydrogen plant stations. However, this topic is done.

There are always reasons why you want to develop an engine in comparision to B58. Every company wants to one up. That is why they are going back to i6s. This is business. This is competition. Also, you do realize that this "tunability factor" is still "grey area." No one has hands on this car to tune it. People dont realize how difficult it is to MAP a car.

Go ahead Tune you car. Toyota wants you to do that. VOID WARRANTY :)

A basic search shows that the development of i6s from mercedes, chevy and ford are going into cars not sports car related.
Toyota Supra is not their flagship. It is the TS050. Lets make that clear.


Where did i say it? Did i not provide you facts on engine applications?

You did jab toyota. Havent developed an engine since 2002. Nice one. I agree on it too.
Toyota doesnt need to create an engine on the same level of Porsche because they have it already. 1GR. 2GR. 3GR

:dunno:
We in the UK don’t get the 1,2 or 3GR. Biggest Toyota engine sold here (from a new Toyota) is the 2.8l diesel in the Land Cruiser Prado.

So a lot of what I refer to is based upon the UK market.. (which would be very similar to Europe overall). So on that basis, Toyota stand no chance vs Porsche engine wise (in the UK and Europe anyways).

As for this discussion, I will just agree to disagree on your points. I personally feel that the B58 will be epic in the Supra, and its only time until someone figures it out for tuning.

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been pondering this a bit more. I mentioned earlier that I enjoy the differences of each generation of supra (except my A40, it's still in pieces and I haven't driven it)

But the one thing they all do - is feel special when you drive them. even around town the A80 feels like a japanese supercar from the 90s. The A60 is the 80s hero car time warp. My A70... well it's a track car so it feels special in that way. Plus it has the minolta livery so that makes it fun.

I loved my GT86. it was a really fun car. but just cruising around town... it didn't feel special. it only felt special when you were driving it hard. that was the thing that just didn't do it for me.

Whatever the A90 does, i really hope when you sit in it, it feels like something special... and personally, it's something only driving one can determine. (example - the A45 AMG is an awesome car on paper - but it didn't feel special at all to me - but the Renault RS265 on the other hand...)
 

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That was the intention of the 86 though, it was economic practical sporty car, it felt special enough for me when I used to own it and drive it, the sitting position was fantastic, the driver's view was on point, the fuel economy was good, although the cabin felt cheap, but you can justify it by its price tag. Then come the times where and when you take it for a spirited drive around curvy roads and it was like hot knife through butter.

The 86 won many awards for a reason and it was applauded by many professional drivers


The one thing I wished it had was..... en extra 40-50% more torque to get that ooomp boost off stops
 

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don't get me wrong - i loved the car! seating position and driving was fantastic. i'd still love one. I was lucky to swap mine for a 1999 RZ Supra in factory original spec, so just before A80 prices went sky high and GT86 dropped :p
 

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I'd also argue that a lot of hate for the new A90 comes from people who have either

a) never owned a stock A80 TT and just youtube/meme'd them their whole life (news flash a stock turbo 2JZ isn't exciting and runs out of puff at 6300)

b) have never owned more than one generation of supra


The A90 is the next chapter in the whole supra story, not a direct modern day A80.

A supra is more than just one generation. It's a series. I'm keen to see what the A90 adds to the series.

Ps. Moto San hinted that on some tracks the A90 is keeping up with the R35. Interesting. (he responded to me on FB around the goodwood car)
It's just like when Klinghoffer first joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers, fans said he wasn't fit for the band because they missed Frusciante(they still do), then fast forward to The Getaway 5 years later, and now he has a following, i believe the same applies here.:popcorn:

Which R35 was the MKV keeping up with?
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Yea that was a terrible terrible video.
Agreed. Enjoyed the comments section better especially this one.

""The new Supra is the adopted son in the Supra family. One day he's gonna look in the mirror and think to himself: "Why don't I look like mommy and daddy? Wait, why don't I have a manual transmission like my parents do? And why do I speak in a German accent?. . . oh my god.""
 

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Ps. Moto San hinted that on some tracks the A90 is keeping up with the R35. Interesting. (he responded to me on FB around the goodwood car)
Hope it doesn't mean the weight of the car. :bump:

I am sold if the car can keep up on the tracks with around 350 hp, but I am sure the driving experience will be very different and I wouldn't mind that. The only thing that will kill it for me is no manual transmission (dual clutch is the minimum).....but none of those 8 speed automatic for sure.
 

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BNW is not even making the new 3 series in manual with the B58. Zupra coming in a manual is NOT happening guys.
 
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