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Righto I've had the chance to look at the ohlins and how they need to be located for use with after market swaybar links. As stated by someone else you need to have the J shaped link mount on the ohlins strut at the 10 o'clock position on R front and 2 o'clock on the L front this should give enough room for the thicker links to have room to move around. So if you are planning on using adjustable sway bar links you will need to position your struts as per above not what the ohlins install instructions say (sticker facing brake caliper). I thought i might save someone some time and confirm that this is how you gotta roll.

Cheers for all that contributed.

On another topic people using SPL lower control arms what do you have your roll centre set to? Ie how many spacers under are you rolling with? I guess ride height needs to be known as well for this one.

Cheers in advance
 

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So is divorced preferred so we can run wider wheels?

P.S. I will never use SPL.
 

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Righto I've had the chance to look at the ohlins and how they need to be located for use with after market swaybar links. As stated by someone else you need to have the J shaped link mount on the ohlins strut at the 10 o'clock position on R front and 2 o'clock on the L front this should give enough room for the thicker links to have room to move around. So if you are planning on using adjustable sway bar links you will need to position your struts as per above not what the ohlins install instructions say (sticker facing brake caliper). I thought i might save someone some time and confirm that this is how you gotta roll.

Cheers for all that contributed.

On another topic people using SPL lower control arms what do you have your roll centre set to? Ie how many spacers under are you rolling with? I guess ride height needs to be known as well for this one.

Cheers in advance
I'm shooting for 10-15mm lower than stock with the Vorshlag camber plates with my setup from 3DM Motorsports. More or less the recommended ride height from Ohlins.

I'm planning on adding 1 washer to my LCAs, and I'm going to purchase and install the tie rod ends with one washer as well.
 

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So which camber plates allow to run at stock height with R&T and stiffer spring? Vorshlag? Or is there an issue after all?
 

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So which camber plates allow to run at stock height with R&T and stiffer spring? Vorshlag? Or is there an issue after all?
With the Vorshlag camber plates, the 200mm long Ohlins spring that comes with the kit will give you a ride height at or slightly higher than stock.

I'm going with a 178mm long Swift main spring with a Swift helper/tender spring. I'll be using the same spring rate as the standard Ohlins springs (90N/mm) to begin with. Barry at 3DM is going to modify the internals of the damper to give it about 10mm of additional stroke. This will give me the 10-15mm lowered ride height.

In the future when I add aero we'll bump up the spring rate and revalve for the stiffer spring. This should work well for now.
 

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So which camber plates allow to run at stock height with R&T and stiffer spring? Vorshlag? Or is there an issue after all?
I run vorslag plates with swift springs AND swift helpers
Lowerd approximately 15mm very close to stock height and running 2.7 camber front and 2.5 camber rear
 

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With the Vorshlag camber plates, the 200mm long Ohlins spring that comes with the kit will give you a ride height at or slightly higher than stock.

I'm going with a 178mm long Swift main spring with a Swift helper/tender spring. I'll be using the same spring rate as the standard Ohlins springs (90N/mm) to begin with. Barry at 3DM is going to modify the internals of the damper to give it about 10mm of additional stroke. This will give me the 10-15mm lowered ride height.

In the future when I add aero we'll bump up the spring rate and revalve for the stiffer spring. This should work well for now.
Well I wanna go 120/190 from the get go, Verus aero setup. And stock height, no lowering.
 

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Well I wanna go 120/190 from the get go, Verus aero setup. And stock height, no lowering.
Contact Barry at 3DM Motorsports. He'll set you up right! He can find the correct Swift springs, and revalve for your application if necessary.

I'm really curious to see how that spring rate works out with the full Verus kit.
 

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Contact Barry at 3DM Motorsports. He'll set you up right! He can find the correct Swift springs, and revalve for your application if necessary.

I'm really curious to see how that spring rate works out with the full Verus kit.
Well I'm in Europe so... :D FIGS revalved Ohlins for aero has this rates (117 and 196 I think) so I figured i'll mimic it from the start.
Just want the least problems adjusting the camber to -3 so dunno if I should do Vorshlag, Verus with a twist or SPL LCA, without lowering it at all.
 

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Well I'm in Europe so... :D FIGS revalved Ohlins for aero has this rates (117 and 196 I think) so I figured i'll mimic it from the start.
Just want the least problems adjusting the camber to -3 so dunno if I should do Vorshlag, Verus with a twist or SPL LCA, without lowering it at all.
Yeah, I just saw that you're in Poland lol.

I'm expecting to have to revalve when I add aero to the car. Verus wing + splitter + diffuser + canards sould produce about 2700N of downforce at 120mph.

I really like the SPL LCAs. They tightened up the front end quite a bit. I'm able to hit ~3.5 degrees of negative camber with stock tophats on the stock struts. With the camber plates I'll be able to hit -3.5 and pull the strut body more inboard to give me more additional tire clearance. I'm also looking forward to the pillow ball camber plates.
 

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Yeah, I just saw that you're in Poland lol.

I'm expecting to have to revalve when I add aero to the car. Verus wing + splitter + diffuser + canards sould produce about 2700N of downforce at 120mph.

I really like the SPL LCAs. They tightened up the front end quite a bit. I'm able to hit ~3.5 degrees of negative camber with stock tophats on the stock struts. With the camber plates I'll be able to hit -3.5 and pull the strut body more inboard to give me more additional tire clearance. I'm also looking forward to the pillow ball camber plates.
So, SPL LCA + stock top hats or camber plates? :>
 
 




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