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I'm wondering the same. If we use Toyota's 20% projection that would be about 135.

In recent history facelift for past Z4, 86, RC, SC, Celica etc to some extent all had reworked bumpers and lights.

Likewise, I see your point. Regardless I do think a 300hp and 400hp version of the Z will still undercut their Supra counterpart. Nissan hasn't spent anywhere near what Toyota has with R&D. Historically the Z has been priced lower as well. As others have said, let's just wait for official numbers.

I would think a 300hp Z would take aim at the 255hp 2.0 Supra.

Maybe next year they will do a 2JZ 6MT swap? :popcorn:

If they do take it back are you planning on getting another or going with something else?

The buy backs I'm seeing at the auctions have electrical and mechanical issues.

Here is a link to our sales thread. https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-supra-and-bmw-z4-sales-figures.2061/

Not sure, but sales wise it appears to be neck and neck to the MK4.

Still waiting for that manual. :sleep:

They got it out of limp mode and starting mods.

Toyota Supra review: it’s a BMW with a Toyota badge https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/toyota-supra-review-its-a-bmw-with-a-toyota-badge/news-story/7f941d0c93db2a55f0f20fb9889252c5

I mean for places like the EU where the 3.0 cost an arm, leg, and a left nut sure, but for the US I don't think it makes much sense. I already said this a million times, but Toyota should have kept the B58C as the base model and took more stuff off of it for a lower price tag.

^Maybe it's this one from the salvage thread? https://www.supramkv.com/threads/salvage-supra-registry.2829/page-8#post-92893

Maybe, but then how much will the price increase by? We all know the current 2.0 is already such a killer deal. :rofl:

I think when the new Z coming out Toyota will drop the 4 banger. :lol:

Kinda agree, but the issue with going that route is can you convince people to folk over $43-$47k for a "Celica"? The last time the Celica was offered here it was a $22k car or $29k with inflation. Either way that's a huge price jump.

Same here, plus no manual or LSD. I think I'm gonna wait and see what the next Z has to offer.

This temp layout is hurting my eyes. o_O