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  1. New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

    Where did you hear 10,000 per year? The article I read said the factory was gearing up to make up to 60,000 per year combined between the Z4 and Supra.
  2. New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

    Wow, your personality is even more deficient than your intellect.. We're talking base MSRP before extras. You know, apples to apples. The Supra debuted at $33,900 and $39,900. Adjusted for inflation that would be $57,600 and $67,800 today. The price did go up in succeeding years due to the...
  3. 3rd gen G29 BMW Z4 (2019-202X)

    The 1990s called - they want their overhang back.
  4. The A70TTR Dedication Thread!

    I read an interview once that said most car salesmen and car dealers aren't car enthusiasts. They don't know much about cars. They don't read car mags or surf sites. A reasonably well-informed car buyer will know more about cars than sales people will. Of course, as with all things, most car...
  5. New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

    "A good majority of people are paying $60-$70k now for used MKIV's" = Not true. VERY FEW people are paying that. My guess is from 10 to 90 sell at that price every year. And I wouldn't be surprised if most of those were rich speculators taking a flier on something different with what amounts to...
  6. Interviews with Chief Engineer Tetsuya Tada

    Yeah, I saw that, but it seems odd to have 265 kw for the base and 300kw for the top-of-the line. That's only a 45-hp difference. Plus the article says a jump to 265 kw is 'likely' without giving us any reason why it is likely. So I discounted that. By the time the Supra actually goes on sale...
  7. New rumors from C&D: 2020 Supra to get BMW inline six engine / B58 & S58 chat

    BMWs have long had a reputation for being unreliable. In addition, I know someone who bought a brand new 2014 BMW, and at 39,000 miles something expensive blew and it cost $3,000 to replace. The manager's response was 'Hey, it's a BMW'. For a certain rich and stupid segment of the population...
  8. What are you ok / not ok with new Supra sharing with BMW

    BMWs have long had a reputation for being unreliable. In addition, I know someone who bought a brand new 2014 BMW, and at 39,000 miles something expensive blew and it cost $3,000 to replace. The manager's response was 'Hey, it's a BMW'. For a certain rich and stupid segment of the population...
  9. Interviews with Chief Engineer Tetsuya Tada

    You're almost certainly wrong. Nothing indicates toyota plans to produce a 600 hp car that costs over $100,000. It's co-produced with the Z4. It will have similar specs to the Z4. It will start at between $39k and $45k. Article after article has said around 320 hp for the base model, including...
  10. Toyota: New Supra Was Mostly Developed In Japan; Won't Be Cheap

    No, I don't. Hopefully English is your second language. You fail both in a literal, word-for-word interpretation of the sentences that mention the Challenger Hellcat, and in the overall point of the post.
  11. Toyota: New Supra Was Mostly Developed In Japan; Won't Be Cheap

    You tried to defend this by saying 'I'm using logic', but there isn't actually much logic here. Let me show you logic. Your "logic" in response to someone saying 'horsepower isn't everything' is to say 'Go buy a BRZ then'. Using the same "logic" you shouldn't be here. You should go buy a...
  12. Toyota: New Supra Was Mostly Developed In Japan; Won't Be Cheap

    I've seen this figure quoted constantly and it's not accurate. The Supra debuted at $33,900 and $39,900. Adjusted for inflation that would be $57,600 and $67,800 today. The price did go up in succeeding years due to the strong yen/weak dollar, leading to plummeting sales. So in 1997 there were...


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