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yeahhhh they know absolutely nothing about the current tune on the A90. there's no way in hell they can predict how to tune it. unless they're super close to toyota (i know nothing about this shop) which i doubt by the quality of their page. pure snake oil. Also, reading the description it...

Perhaps it's a marketing stunt. Perhaps they know people will bash on the numbers anyway, and the defense people have been using is "but it'll be tunable!" to justify the terrible launch numbers. By leaving the restrictive exhaust on, it'll feed that fire when everyone starts touting "I made 50...

Wow, that interior is identical to all of my BMWs. They didn't change a single thing, except the steering wheel. They didn't even bother to change the UI on the infotainment system. Pretty disappointed there. Also, funny fact for numbers folks, the base model 4 cyl Supra is rated at 194 HP. The...

Struggles? Not sure where the hell you heard that. The M6 is near nismo money, yet still gets absolutely slaughtered by base model GTR trims in literally every category (0-everything, braking, skidpad g force, figure 8 times, track times, etc) by a significant margin. The massive carbon ceramic...

Sure, journalists have clocked the A90 unofficial runs around the 8 min mark. The Z4 did 7:55:41. Considering it's been confirmed they share a platform and drivetrain, it makes logical sense to conclude that the Supra will do similar times. Unless of course you're inferring that suspension and...

Except the entire post is about the new price of a gt4 vs the new expected price of an A90. Doesn't change the fact in the slightest that paying that much over msrp was a bad bargaining tactic. Maybe you can bump this in 5 years when we're ready to talk resale value in A90's. Also, want to talk...

#1 - if you paid 100k for a Cayman gt4, unless you optioned the Christ out of it or paid a massive dealer markup, you fucked up. I bought a 991.1 Carrera S new for a few hundred dollars North of 100k. #2 - the A90's ring times have been clocked at around 8 minutes flat, which put it at 15...

This just in: you can now buy a Toyota badged car, built by BMW, with two more cylinders, yet still slightly slower than a Cayman, for the price of...a Cayman! ....lol

which is precisely why i stated i'm waiting for a track variant, which i feel is the proper supra? not sure why you're getting so butthurt over the reality that some folks are waiting on different versions? Especially since the Supra was never initially intended to be a GT car

Fast and furious definition eh? I owned a TT A80, among several other world fighting track cars. And, the A80 in a square tire setup was absolutely a world competitor on the track. I made the mistake of getting a targa, and as such it lacked the rigidity I needed, but it was a world class car by...

There's a way to make minivans fast too. Doesn't mean that said minivan should be marketed as a pure sports car with one of the most legendary namesakes. The mere fact that "lets pump sound in through the speakers to make it sound great" was integrated screams BMW to me, and owning several of...

Oh hey, we can at least rest assured that this will sound amazing...via the engine noises that are pumped in over the speakers so it sounds good. Minor detail, but man I wish we had just a plain ass raw sports car without all the fake vent, fake noise, "looks fast" gimicky shit. I'm giving up...

`In the planning stages we suggested a mid-engined layout and BMW was happy to go with it, but I took the idea to Akio Toyoda and he told me off.”` https://www.topgear.com/car-news/tgs-guide-japan/toyotas-planning-lighter-track-focused-supra

the price isn't the issue, i guess its the legacy of the japanese supercar that i remember so vividly from the 90's that makes this car so extremely disappointing so far. I had a TT and it was one of my favorite cars. The "halo" car for every japanese manufacturer were my perfect cars growing...

I mean, to be honest salesguys don't know shit about the cars that they literally have on their lot at that moment, i'd take what they have to say with a grain of salt, lol.

SportAuto did an 8:01 in an '18 CTR. You're absolutely nuts if you don't think course condition and driver variance can't swing a lap time by one second. the CTR is definitely sub-8 capable. Just barely, though. It's still unfortunate that should the numbers be similar for the supra, that a...

I'll regret even more a rebadged BMW. As I said I already own two boring as sin BMWs. If this was actually a Toyota and not a Z4 rebadge, I'd be all for it. If I wanted another dull BMW at the rumored price point, I'd get an M2 competition with a manual and 400+ HP I track the hell out of my...

This is exactly my situation. I'm buying one of the two, but want to be properly disappointed in person before I commit to the GT-R. I wanted to like this so so so badly but from everything that I've heard, it's just another meh BMW. Already being the current owner of two wildly disappointing...

Oh I'm sure the next GTR will handily outperform the Supra. It damn well better for twice the price. I'm just not sure if I'll like the look, and if it has a hybrid drivetrain I'd absolutely pass. I'm genuinely hoping that the Supra isn't just a rebadged BMW though, as my current BMWs are...

I'm completely committed to buying the GTR redesign or Supra, depending on what they both turn out to be. This wait for actual specs is killing me. My current daily is a big ass '18 X6 i50, and while 450hp sounds like a lot of fun, not so much when it's in a 5k lb sled. I'll be completely...