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  1. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    I'm not sure what the racercar is at 1:09 that the original poster is referring to but the headlights at 1:18 are indeed from an MKIV.
  2. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    This does further confirm an NA high compression version of the G20E 2.0L. They said 200ps (197hp or so). I would guess that is just from the engine on its own. It's very possible that since the G20E series has been designed with turbocharging and hybridization in mind there may be a slight...
  3. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    Yes. Exactly that. And given all that Akio Toyoda ultimately wants and all they've invested in engine R&D so far, not doing so would be... a colossal waste of opportunity. And given how much time development takes, how big Toyota is as a company to be able to and the window of time within which...
  4. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    It's not a Supra test mule. And yeah that's definitely not an I-6. Most likely it is one of the handful of GR86 G16E 3cyl test cars that Toyota built a couple of years ago. Maybe updated now with an G20E... but if so possibly not turbo. Probably with a mild hybrid system. I would suspect...
  5. Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

    Well hello GR86 with a longitudinal G16E or G20E stuffed into you making a cut out hood necessary. Interesting. But this could just be one of the G16E GR86 test cars they build a while back. Probably more for testing and working on the drivetrain in longitudinal configuration more than...
  6. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    English translation of the article from Google Translate:
  7. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    I really hope that's the case. A 2028 model year reveal for the new Celica would be awesome. The MR2 making it out the same year even delayed a bit later would be fantastic. The development of both is supposed to have been shared somehow. At minimum this probably includes the G20E turbo's...
  8. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    I remember that video. The original S-FR concept has been heavily speculated to be based on a Miata platform. But the public response to it was very good so they kept toying with it in some form? We know that the trio collaboration Daihatsu Copen, Suzuki Cappuccino and Toyota __? (S-FR?) small...
  9. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    The last I read on this rumor branch the potential collaboration was likely still on the table but not for the very next generation. Rather for the one after the very next. This was supposed to have been because Mazda still wanted to pursue the very next Miata MX-5 as a non-hybrid (one would...
  10. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    Yes, I think we're all wishing they'd just get on with it sooner rather than later!
  11. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    I think it would be far more likely to be the other way around: if a four door GR were to be in the lineup the odds might be higher that such a model would be the 3rd gen 86 rather than the new Celica. Toyota is going to have the Celica coupe (2+2 hopefully?), Supra MKVI coupe (two seater again...
  12. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    Seeing the pictures and the differences between this and the first space-frame mule that's a fair assessment. The Celica will have to be 2+2. The overall longer length is a given (probably to give extra space up front for more cooling heat exchangers) but I'm curious if the wheelbase has...
  13. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    That car may still look rough but it's making all the right sounds and moves. The G16E it has won't make production but the G20E will be a great upgrade.
  14. Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

    More likely 2028 since they've had to plan to meet multiple new regulations in most global markets by that year including within Japan. Unless they plan to just not sell a GR86 at all for a couple of years after the current one ends production. The current model is no longer available in EU...
  15. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    On this specific point he is speculating wildly off from a lot of articles in the last couple of years that detail Toyota's commitment to continuing to offer manual transmissions amidst electrification. The Celica, MR2 and Supra are all GR division cars and the G20E engine was designed from the...
  16. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    ^^ With the claim that it will be the "entry model for the GR performance brand" I have questions about where the 3rd gen GR86 will fall into place in the lineup... and what the least expensive manual transmission Celica with AWD will cost. Hopefully a manual option won't be limited to the top...
  17. Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

    We know next to nothing about the 3rd gen GR86 so far other than that it'll likely use one of Toyota's G-series I-3 or I-4 engines and have some mild hybrid system available-- hopefully still retaining a manual transmission option. And that the current reworked platform hailing from 2012 is...
  18. Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

    2030-2032...? The current model is only a reworking of the already old 2012 platform as a means to extend its life, keep the model on sale a bit longer (from the outgoing 2021 GT86) and reasonably improve it before a completely new platform needs to be introduced to comply with new crash safety...
  19. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    I entirely agree! And in addition to that a 3rd gen GR86 Cup series, a Supra MKVI Cup series and a Celica Cup series. And if they ever do an Altezza RS200 successor (I wish) then have a series for that too.
  20. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT! (Bonus: Lexus LFA)

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/toyota-knows-the-gr-gt-makes-no-financial-sense-but-akio-promised-no-boring-cars





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