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  1. Exclusive: Manual-Equipped Toyota Supra Is Finally Coming From EAG

    Kinda cool that itā€™s being done...but $12k? On top of the price of the car and now voiding the warranty? (I wouldnā€™t place much stock in the ā€œwarrantyā€ that the shop will offer). No, thanks. I will not pay a 20% premium to get the transmission it should have come with. I wonder what they do...
  2. šŸ‘£ Official: Toyota Announces Manual Transmission Supra!

    No manual? No sale. It really is that simple for me. Automatics are for minivans and race cars. That likely makes me an anachronism. But Iā€™m an anachronism with buying power that will be looking elsewhere. The C8 comparison isnā€™t really valid, either. The C8 has a DCT, which is an entirely...
  3. Motor Trend Test: Supra versus Cayman and M2 Competition comparison review

    All the cars do mid 12s at 110-115- not slow! The Supra is clearly the value here, and from the reviews, compares very well subjectively. If they do a manual, Iā€™m in. Until or unless they do, Iā€™m not. Call me old school, but Iā€™ve never driven a sporty car that wasnā€™t more fun with three pedals...
  4. Motor Trend Test: Supra versus Cayman and M2 Competition comparison review

    Very impressive results. I wonder how relevant the prices are (meaning will Supras actually sell for MSRP or will there be a crazy ADM?). My guess is ownership costs would make it a no-brainer.Porsche and BMW are notorious in that regard. But the price point also puts it up against a C7, which...
  5. Official 2020 Toyota Supra US Specs, Images, Videos

    he he...my neighbors would be ECSTATIC if I were to replace the '57 with a Supra. But that ain't happening..!
  6. Official 2020 Toyota Supra US Specs, Images, Videos

    Interesting how the price varies. I'd have thought that it would be much the same and most of the difference would come via how it is taxed. But I agree, $70k is too much. In the US, Id say the projected of low to mid $50s is just about right. A bit more than a well optioned Camaro or Mustang...
  7. Official 2020 Toyota Supra US Specs, Images, Videos

    yeah lol...but I'm pretty sure you took it as intended...which is to say that anybody that is willing to put up with that sort of commitment probably already has a Lotus :P
  8. Official 2020 Toyota Supra US Specs, Images, Videos

    I wouldn't get too wrapped up by the HP ratings. It's far more important where and for how long that power is available. 3,400lbs is a bit porky, but it was about what I expected. The only people that would be pleased by stripping the weight down would be the people that wouldn't buy the car...
  9. The "Unofficial" Pricing U.S. 2020 Supra models!

    Hadn't given that much thought, but it makes sense; 350-ish bhp from an engine that size isn't unheard of w/o FI...they aren't leaning on it hard. And don't forget that on a motor like that, average hp across the band will be very good. Dyno graphs are some time off, but I wouldn't be surprised...
  10. The "Unofficial" Pricing U.S. 2020 Supra models!

    Some interesting gripes about Toyota not designing its own motor, and citing some of the other companies (notably GM, Ford and Fiat/Chrysler) that have. One thing that works in those companies' favor is that the motors in their performance cars share architecture with volume sellers in other...
  11. The "Unofficial" Pricing U.S. 2020 Supra models!

    I've seen guys with about 1,000hp go high 8s at 165 or so in an M3...with a cage and slicks. I have never seen 1,000hp in anything but a dyno queen or the local "fly by king" that didn't have a cage. At that point, it's kind of a drag only car. Not a bad thing in and of itself, but if one were...
  12. The "Unofficial" Pricing U.S. 2020 Supra models!

    I have no doubt whatsoever that this engine can be tuned beyond the chassis' ability to handle it without touching the long block. It won't hook, but the power will be there, for sure.
  13. The "Unofficial" Pricing U.S. 2020 Supra models!

    I've little doubt the car will trap at about 110-112 thru a quarter mile (not that it's a drag racer- just that quarter mile trap speed is about the most reliable measurement of HP vs weight), and that's certainly reasonably quick. Unlike the MkIV, it will be outgunned by the C7, and likely the...
  14. Take a look at the new Supra!!! Full vehicle revealed by Toyota Mexico

    yeah..I'm kinda with you there. They don't bother me as much, but to my eye some of the least appealing elements are those that are trying to look more "race derived." I still think it's a good looking car, but those elements aren't my favorite, either.
  15. Take a look at the new Supra!!! Full vehicle revealed by Toyota Mexico

    I think it will be at least 1,500KG judging from what I read about the Z4; hard to imagine any significant weight savings on the Toyota model. Bummer
  16. Take a look at the new Supra!!! Full vehicle revealed by Toyota Mexico

    Aesthetically the car is appealing to me. The performance should be fairly good. The thing I have a hard time with is that it isn't fast enough to be automatic only (Enzo, GT3, et all...I get it. But at less than 400 hp and over 3200 lbs? not so much...maybe 110-112 mph thru the quarter...
  17. Take a look at the new Supra!!! Full vehicle revealed by Toyota Mexico

    Very nice looking car. And agreed, it does recall the 2000GT. Get a third pedal and color me interested...though I admit to having trust issues with anything BMW has had a hand in!
  18. This is the 2020 mid-engine Chevy Corvette / C8 Corvette Z06 revealed

    gotcha...but the exhaust rhythm still sounded like a flat crank to me
  19. This is the 2020 mid-engine Chevy Corvette / C8 Corvette Z06 revealed

    Some interesting stuff. I could see $170k for a vette if it's an evolution of what now sits in the line up as the ZR-1. Maybe. But if there isn't a vette for (well) under $100k, I think they will fail in the showroom. At around $80k, it could work even if there is no real progression beyond the...
  20. šŸ‘£ Official: Toyota Announces Manual Transmission Supra!

    Very interesting to see WHICH manual might be used, but ultimately interested to see IF a manual might be used. I know everyone sees this differently, but to ME, automatics are for race cars and minivans (or basic transportation cars). I always hear the argument that the automatic is faster...to...


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