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BMW lifecycle approach does apply to the Supra. The current model lineup is going to continue until June 2022. In July 2022, the new facelifted version will start production. Right now it seems the facelift is not going to significantly change the hardware: worldwide, there will still be four...

Are you sure you're comparing apples to apples? Is the data from the same markets? Because the whole thing is a pretty mess. Here are all the versions of these cars I can remember off the top of my head: M340i B58D, US emissions M340i B58D, WLTP emissions M340i B58D, non-US and non-WLTP...

Nope. Different engine blocks: "B" block in B58D, "C" block in B58C. And there are definitely more differences you can find by comparing part numbers of https://bimmercat.com/bmw/en/search/selectCar/G29/Roa/BMW+Z4+M40i+B58D/ECE/11 vs...

BMW has disabled the system that used to make possible pulling this kind of statistics.

Just to be more precise, B58C _is_ B58B30M1, and B58D is B58B30O1. Each engine model has two designations used in different situations. The single letter is what you see when you do a VIN lookup, the long name is the official name of the engine model. The M240i/340i/440i's B58B30M0 is "B58M" in...

I feel like you were thinking about Tesla while writing "Toyota".

Yeah, Cayman is not such a great example, with 718 GTS having just jumped from a 2.5L turbo to a NA 4.0L sixer.

Doesn't change my point: every BMW model gets a new motor as soon as that motor is ready for that model. For a less sexy example, right now, G20/G21 320d (European models) are getting the mild hybrid setup with the 48V electric system, even though the models are a year old - because that mild...

2001 Z3M: 240hp. 2002 Z3M: 315hp. 2017 M2: 365hp. 2018 M2: 405hp. 2010 135i: N54. 2011 135i: N55 (no power difference but 10% fuel economy savings). Didn't I tell you the Supra was a BMW product through and through? Welcome to the world of German engineering where on any given day you get the...

Is this meant to be a figure of speech, like "when pigs fly"?

This thread is bonkers.

Only BMW engineers can fully answer this question. But it is a fact that there are no RDE-compliant Z4 B58D cars.

You're looking at the wrong model. Only the Z4 matters.

Correct on this being Misano Blue. Will also add black/blue interior. Spring 2020.

It is likely the NA market Supra will transition to B58D starting with March 2020 production. Other countries might get it too, but only those countries that currently receive the B58D version of Z4 M40i (because same rules apply). The current plans call for A90 to be in production until the...

Y'all will want to get this for your new Supras: https://bimmercat.com/bmw/EN/search/selectCar/G29/Roa/BMW+Z4+M40i/USA/61_6247

Getting $10K or more below sticker on a C7 was trivial even a year ago. Right now, C7 GS is the best deal - you basically get all GS stuff for free. The same is going to happen to C8 after a couple of years. Both Supra and Cayman will suffer.

Seems like you trust me even more than I trust myself.

... unless you're dead set on a Launch Edition one. Production of LEs is now finished. Regular Supras are being made at a pretty rapid pace. Approximately 2500 (including LEs) have been already assembled just for the US market alone. This means within a couple of months every Toyota dealer will...

The rule of thumb for the previous generations of non-M BMW motors used to be 1000Km under 4Krpm. Not sure if the newest B58 still requires the same.