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It's also significantly heavier, only reason it ran away from the light is because of the instant torque from the electric motor giving it an edge from a dig, also AWD helps.

Because they know you're interested and they wanna make a quick buck on a low volume vehicle. Don't pay over sticker, the hype is dead with this car. I dont plan to pay over sticker for a 21, once they've been on dealer lots for a few months you have more room to negotiate.

Hybrids will do that, we're coming up to a transitional period where they start hybridization of performance vehicles to compete better with full EVs before everything turns into an EV.

I don't like this approach, unless you're strictly aiming for an A91 and willing to pay sticker or even a little mark up. When you put money down like that and let them know you're seriously interested and haven't talked numbers then you put them in a better position to keep your deposit and...

I guess you can wax your car with bug repellent? lol

Model 3 Perf owner here, can confirm its fast and especially nuts off the line. Still i want to trade it for a 21 Supra. The Tesla is just boring in my opinion. It's on rails and there's no drama to get up to speed. Sure blowing everyone away at lights is still fun, and its a fantastic daily as...

Same thought here, unless keeping forever the 21s will fetch a better sale price than a 20, probably enough to cancel out any savings you get now from going with a discounted 20.

Yeah, if someone wants truly low weight then a miata is great too and wont break the bank like a lotus. I'd like a miata myself but cant justify it in NJ unless it was a second car, but i can't run two cars right now either so maybe at a later time if/when i move south i would certainly have a...

Do the math 12.5lb/hp in the 2.0 or 8.9lb/hp in the 3.0. Its definitely not worth it. Who thinks of a i-4 when they think of supra? If you want a low weight rwd i-4 car then the 86 is where to look. I guess if someone just likes the look of the supra and doesn't want to pony up for the i-6 then...

The blue A91 is cool and if i could get one this summer at MSRP i would, but since none of the 400 are A91s I'll settle happily for a nitro yellow. There's really not enough in the A91 to make me really want it, the only really exclusive thing is the blue paint, but even that could be solved...

No way, maybe some will try to get extra for the A91, but im sure you'll even find those at sticker at some dealers. The normal A90 21 will go for sticker or lower all damn day. There's really nothing special for the A91 that you couldn't add to an A90 yourself, the carbon bits can be all had...

I went to a dealer last week after getting an email from them with the VIN options and price was MSRP. I get there and 10 minutes in they added 10k markup so i noped out of there. I've contacted numerous dealers and one even said they're selling theirs for 100k lol. New Jersey has some really...