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Toyota's build/order process has always been terrible. The Launch Editions have been allocated. The rest (who knows emoji)?? There is no order screen/process open, no information other than and anecdotal September/Fall time frame. Trust me, we would love to be able to give you accurate...

ADM won't have any effect on demand, the ADM is a result of the demand.

Put a roof on that BMW and it's got 10x the looks of ours, IMO. Almost Mercedes GT-like. Sleek, continuous lines, understated power relative the the Supra

Ugh, that thing looks puffed up with too much botox, restylane and lip filler...

The lack of the (tiny) +2 rear seats is the real issue to me, not the missing 5 inches...that's wat she said

Toyota's whole order/distribution system is a cluster. There is no communication to dealers regarding Supra ordering, even though we've been asking, but we've been told(warned) "don't take money and promise on vehicles you can't deliver..." In the day and age where I can track a package from...

Looks much better with the rear fender/door fake vent filled in as one piece of bodywork

No one will want to afford a stretched LandSmasher, it'll be well over 100K, Wrangler and 4Runner are not cross shopped, two different markets. The Tundra plant is humming at full capacity, and they sell as many Tundras as they can build. Don't expect any experiments there until a new 2 Billion...

2-5 grand, then MSRP, then discount, then rebate and discount.

Sure, but now at $70-$80k, you have the same argument...

It looks like if you want the first one off the truck, there's going to be a mark up. The market is demanding that right now. Wait a year from the first delivery, or maybe only six months.

We’ve got a TRD manual 86 on the lot now, revised springs, dampers and rubber that I love. But at 34k and 200hp I’m going to love it for a long time...

In reality however, this car is going to be a beast. I love BMWs TTI6, and their driving dynamics, I always have, I can’t wait for this car!!

Yep

It’s straight line slow, but fun to corner and row through the gears at higher rpms. But I’m below sea level, with zero elevation changes...

I’m not talking about JP car culture(internet non buyers) I’m talking about real world Joe Customer. I’ve spoken to many people that won’t even come in for a drive on the 86 because of the horsepower disparity between it and the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger. If they actually had some seat time...

This is the FRS/86 in a nutshell. A great great drivers car, a ton of fun. PEOPLE WON'T EVEN CONSIDER IT BECAUSE OF THE 200HP NUMBER.They won't come in to drive the car. Now the Supra has gotten much more real-world hype from where I'm sitting, meaning real customers calling and money being...

The Supra has gotten much more real-world hype from where I'm sitting, meaning real customers calling and money being put up, so that bodes well. I really wish they had come out at 385, if only to position the Supa better on paper.

I'm in GST so a different deal, but production dates of March would line up with July roughly, after the usual GST mystery hold at the port.