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It's a joke, man. You said you're not ashamed of who is building the car, implying Toyota. I'm being a smart ass, because it's being assembled by MS. Forum software deleted the insurance smiley. :doh::spaz::bat::catfight::drive: Wait... Forget that last one:banghead:

There's going to be Magna-Steyr badging? (That would actually be kind of cool, like the old GM "Body by Fisher" kick plates)

Given what you know about this car, do you or would you plan to buy one, personal finances permitting? Does it meet or exceed your own expectations? In other words, will we see you at an owners' meet?

A70, an article (i think it was CAR) made the claim that they'd heard the MKV might be built in a Toyota factory instead of at Magna Steyr. This seems incredibly unlikely to me...have you heard anything to indicate that a Toyota plant was ever a consideration?

If not the MKV, I'm getting a pickup truck, a trailer and a Formula race car. Everything else I like is over $100k, and if I'm going to spend that kind of money, I'm going racing.

The legacy of the MKIV isn't something which can be replicated. I've had mine for 19 years, and I was around when the single turbos started to hit in numbers. It was as if someone had unleashed a WMD on the car scene. . Within maybe 18 months, it went from "what kind of Toyota is that?" to...

Since this is the North American specs thread, I guess this is as good a place as any for this. Specs which matter, roughly in order: Curb weight stock - Even the high estimate (3300) is lower than my MKIV (3450 on a truck scale). If there's a trim at 3100, I'm interested Chassis stiffness...

Long time lurker, first time poster. Yet another opinionated MKIV owner (18 years) keeping an eye on what BMW and Tada-san have been devising.